Moody Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Hey, I hope that all of you are fine and doing well. I'm impressed with the amazons personality and abilities and I consider myself have the enough experience to raise an amazon as I currently have a macaw and an eclectus. Amazons are even more rare than macaws and other type of parrots and it costs a lot in my country for a double yellow headed or a yellow naped amazon they range between $3000 - $4000 (USD) each. Nobody is breeding them in my country so all of the available ones are imported from France and Belgium. The double yellow headed that I saw have a closed ring with a cites with their leg band numbering and id etc, The yellow naped ones don't have a closed ring, Instead they are microshipped and the microship # is there on their cites certs too. I'm sorry for the long introduction I'm just seeking a sincere advice on the following one before getting it, I did my homework, lots of researches and so on. I'm interested of getting the following parrot, I'm just a bit worried as I couldn't identify the type of it whether it's a yellow naped or a mealy amazon? I've googled both, lots of youtibe videos, The eye ring I can't see it on the most yellow naped ones, While it doesn't look similar to mealy, I mean the eye ring. I've took few pictures and a video of the bird and I wanted to get your sincere advices before going ahead and geting that bird, I just don't want a trader/an importer to trick/cheat on me. I really appreciate your help. Thanks all in advance. Pictures: http://imageshack.us/a/img600/213/img2013020600142.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img267/163/img2013020600141.jpg Video: Sorry for the video quality as I captured it using my BB, I've uploaded the video which has a better quality when it's played on a computer http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/390935/VID-20130206-00000-3GP.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Many young Zon's don't show color change till they're older. Your photo could be a Yellow-nape or Orange wing, not a Mealy or Dbbl. Check here.......The has gray white feet, and bone/black beak, and blue shading on head..Check here.........http://www.greyforums.net/forums/showthread.php?190343-Amazon-of-the-Week-Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Hey Jay, Thanks a lot for your input. Regarding shading on the head, I've found some sites that says it's normal for immatures yellow nape to have, Please advise? http://www.parrots.org/index.php/encyclopedia/profile/yellow_crowned_amazon/ ====================== B. Yellow-naped or auropalliata group: immatures have no yellow on head or neck; crown washed with blue/green. Bill dark grey. Eye brown ====================== also: http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=Sklz7tAUa4IC&pg=PA345&lpg=PA345&dq=yellow+nape%2Bwashed&source=bl&ots=hGCP8_JwPh&sig=kz6vMv4zlcdgeBSUH2y-b-zD-eE&hl=ar&sa=X&ei=SXkXUc2WLsSRhQfszoHgDQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=yellow%20nape%2Bwashed&f=false It doesn't look like an orange-winged amazon to me hmm. But for sure it's not a mealy? How % to be a nape and how % to be an orange winged please? Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 A Yellow-nape or Orange-wing have the blue to blue green tint same as the Blue-front. not a Mealy for sure. A Orange-wing is is the only Zon with orange feathers. On the wing, instead of red the feathers are orange, the shoulder bend is light yellow. The photo of the Yellow-front you posted has a bone colored beak, not bone and black. http://www.avianweb.com/yellowcrownedamazon.html Thank you Jayd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Hey Jay, Did you see tha video? Actuallt the beak color is black + grey/bone colored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) Hey Jay, Did you see tha video? Actuallt the beak color is black + grey/bone colored Yes, I was referring to the link of the Yellow-crown you posted...Thanks Jay [This one] http://www.parrots.org/index.php/enc...rowned_amazon/ Edited February 11, 2013 by Jayd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 Hey Jay, Thank you, I was referring to: ====================== B. Yellow-naped or auropalliata group: immatures have no yellow on head or neck; crown washed with blue/green. Bill dark grey. Eye brown ====================== As some sites says immature YNA may have that bluish head feather as well. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Hey Jay, Thank you, I was referring to: ====================== B. Yellow-naped or auropalliata group: immatures have no yellow on head or neck; crown washed with blue/green. Bill dark grey. Eye brown ====================== As some sites says immature YNA may have that bluish head feather as well. Thanks Sorry, after a couple of months old the mandible is bone/black, as well as a few to many traces of yellow on the head, along with the blue green on the cheeks and forehead. The Yellow-Nape doesn't develop the yellow on the nape for quite a while. Some Zon's don't develop there full coloration until their almost 12yrs old. As baby's,[immature] Yellow-nape, Orange-wing, Blue-front all look very much alike when it comes to coloration. In the 1st photo, I'm holding 3 zons,[immature] all the same age, 1 Yellow-Nape, 1 Blue-front, and 1 Orange-wing. In the second photo, same baby's with 2 blue-front. Thanks Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbersmom Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 What neat pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 At this age, about 8-9 weeks, they look muck alike. Notice the Black beaks on the Blue-fronts. The one on the top row right and bottom row are Blue-front, the middle one is a Yellow-nape and the small one on the left is our Salsa, a Orange wing. Here's some treats: Blue Mutation Yellow-Nape Yellow Mutation Yellow-nape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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