kins2321@yahoo.com Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 As long as you continue to expect her, to accept you... she will do it. Just takes time. Hubby needs to be involved in letting Gabby know that he " accepts" you. It takes time, but I promise... stick to your expectations, you will get there. It took Sophie six months to accept everyone. I LOVE how she loves us all. Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfchck Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 Hey Nancy! We told Gabby she shouldn't be on our shoulder, she agreed! Lol, i am just kidding, she took a flight tonight and thats where she landed! I thought it was cute! She is doing great with me, things are moving along at a good pace. Tonight she let me give her skritches without a puff up so baby steps for us both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbersmom Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 LOLOL Great pic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kins2321@yahoo.com Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Yup! That looks like a good perch! LOL Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfchck Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 Great, Bubba is on the mend now i have noticed something that could become an issue with Gabby. She has that bum leg, today however when i went to pick her up from her cage, i noticed her good leg looked funny. She was limp toed in the front tootsies. I had her step back up onto her door and restep up onto my hand and it seemed okay then. Gesh, really? Will my kiddos ever catch a break??? She seemed just fine after that, good enough in fact, to chew my antique victrola record cases ( that were originals ) into little bitty spit balls! Hubby had a little panic saying he couldn't find her, i laughed and looked over to my collection and said, well, thank heavens we were not counting on any money those could have brought in! My fault, she had already gotten one and i didn't move them. Having a busy bird like her is sooooo new to us! All the boys are quiet and just hang out and play with what they have, she is into everything! I actually love it and wish Bongo had half her energy. But that energy can be used one bird at a time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kins2321@yahoo.com Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Ohhhh put away those antiques! Anything important to me is behind a glass, or put away. I don't even have curtains or blinds on lower level anymore. Gabby seems to compensate quite well with any of her physical handicaps. Now you need to learn them, which you are doing.You guys are a perfect match! Gabby and you and hubby are all going to thrive. Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfchck Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 We really are trying. Lol A friend was over yesterday and brought Budweiser beer in a can shaped like a bottle. Gabby was not leaving this guy alone. She knew what she wanted and wasn't going to give up, so I took his empty can and rinsed it out really good and gave it to her in hopes she would leave his alone, it worked, she just wanted the can. Too bad the noise level from her smacking it against the table caused us to have to change rooms! This poor guy wants to be friends with our birds so bad and really, they see him as a chicken bone! He is afraid of them and they know it. We did put Bongo on his arm and let him put him back on his stand, to build some trust no matter how small. It worked, he was able to pick him up after that on his own. I would only trust Bongo with him as Bongo is way more relaxed and laid back. His bites, few as they are are just pressure bites, he isn't out for blood as the others are. He gives your hand a push if he doesn't want to do something and we will leave him alone and not force anything, he usually will give his contact call as we are turning away and then he is ready. It is like he is testing us, i assume we pass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kins2321@yahoo.com Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I think you " pass" with all your birds. You certainly do with me! Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbersmom Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 LOL funny about your "chicken bone" friend! Really nice to hear birds like Bongo exist too, that know the difference between discouraging and blood drawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfchck Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Oh boy, i almost started a warning thread in the training section. We bought two books dealing with behavior, one for him and one for me and then we would switch. As of yesterday, when we are working with our kids we are both saying to each other, "my book says....". Yikes, next time, one book! We got it mostly for Bubba and his biting but learned basic boo boos we have been making, both books agree with the boo boos but both books teach diff ways to deal with it! I am correcting him and vise versa, lol. I want to go back to being dumb about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdhouse Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Finished or not, sounds like it might be a good time to switch books & try to get on the same page, so to speak. Might also help if you two kick around what you're reading while you're reading it, rather than in the heat of the moment. I know you know this, but it doesn't mean anything just because you read it in a book. It all amounts to theory & suggestions that give you more choices. The only right solution is the one that works right now. Ten minutes from now, who knows. Also, what's right for one of you might not be for the other. Just don't let the fids hear you fighting! lol You may have been kidding. But I think it sounds like a fine idea to start a Co-Parronting thread. A discussion like that could be more helpful for people than you might imagine. So far you've operated on great instincts (very far from being dumb!). Now you're both getting a different perspective which is great :rolleyes:...and if you keep thinking that, you might even believe it . It's just when someone makes you conscious of what you're doing instinctively, it tends to make you a little nuts (like, "Do you exhale when you...?"). It shouldn't be too long before you get back into your comfort zone again though. And just think of how many less bandages you'll need once you get there! Edited October 2, 2012 by birdhouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywings Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 A new Grey hat! Hey Nancy! We told Gabby she shouldn't be on our shoulder, she agreed! Lol, i am just kidding, she took a flight tonight and thats where she landed! I thought it was cute! She is doing great with me, things are moving along at a good pace. Tonight she let me give her skritches without a puff up so baby steps for us both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kins2321@yahoo.com Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Birdhouse is soooo right! Switch those books! LOL! What are they saying? What are you disagreeing on? Hey.... don't forget us? We need to learn too! It would be GREAT to hear what you differ on. Include us! What great debates coming on! Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfchck Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Yeah, the plan is to switch books. He is reading "the Parrot Problem Solver" and i am on the "Clicker Training for birds". Well i am done with mine but want to soak it in and read the other before we start any training. Yesterday our debate was when he said he took the birds out of the cage and just put his arm out and if they stepped up he gave a reward, hence Bongo stayed in his room and came out after i got home. I asked why he rewarded them for stepping up, which they do just fine? His reply was his book said to do that. My come back was well my book did too IF they are just learning it. We did agree, no training until we have finished both books and sit down in agreement to plan our direction. It is very eye opening how easy it is to confuse and scare them though. We are both very easy going so we lucked out not screwing them up so far! We let them be who they are, express theirselves and be happy. A few less finger bites would just be swell though!! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kins2321@yahoo.com Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Many parents treat with rewards. I never knew better, probably would agree with this, but I had no experience. I worked with " stepup, step down", by making their experience amazing! After first stepup, they couldn't resist! " I'm gonna try that again!" My birds learned thru competition and games, they wanted to be with us. We are very Irish,, birds were always involved with family events. Sophie always has a foot up... who's taking me... where are we going! I feel bad sometimes....she always has her foot up and ready... what are we doing today? Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywings Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Nancy that works for me, we all know birds are only in this for themselves as far as behavior training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfchck Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Lol, they are in it for theirselves! Gabby was a hoot yesterday. She kept flying to a counter that we try to keep her off of. She took everything, one at a time, and tried to take it to her "nest". From a spoon to the top of the sugar bowl and fortune cookies. We tried out the training of not paying attention to what she was taking and get her interested in an acceptable toy and praise and reward her for choosing the toy. She is a smartie pants cuz she kept going back and taking stuff and then looking at us for the "come on guys, time to trade toys" game. Guess we need to practice this more and reread that chapter, we seem to be doing something wrong! Lol I have noticed that these parrot behaviour books should be titled people behaviour when living with a parrot instead. It is our actions that they feed off of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywings Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 So true! It is up to us to learn how to navigate around all their cleverness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kins2321@yahoo.com Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Wouldn't it be GREAT, if our birds could write the book, we could read it and be trained in less than a week? We could get where we want to be so much faster! LOL! Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfchck Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Just for kicks though, i would take my own sweet time showing these guys i am learning from their book! Payback time! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfchck Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 I knew Gabby was smart but i didn't know she was an inventor! Please note this can is empty but no cans, full or not, are safe around her. I am sure that her biggest joy is shoving things off of tables to watch them spill! In this picture, she made herself the handle so we wouldn't have to hold a cold can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbersmom Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 LOL Neat pics! Now if she can just come up with something you can patent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfchck Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 No joke! I'm thinking something along the lines of a sugar level tester for diabetics. She can put a little hole that draws blood quicker than the blink of an eye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfchck Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Had to google for translation, even more confused.. Whether harmful creams bad for shrimp for the stomach, liver? if not often used ... Gabby gave me real kisses yesterday! I think she may be accepting me a little more now. Still limited on the touch but a kiss is a breakthrough with her and me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbersmom Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Good deal! It's so nice to hear about progress... gives encouragement to us all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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