neoow Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Hello everyone, My name is Katrina and I live in the UK with my 9 year old African Grey, Alfie and my two 19 month old Bengal cats, Widget and Pixel. I apologise in advance for this is very likely to be long winded! I used to work in my local Pets at Home store back when they sold birds and parrots. That's where I discovered African Greys and decided I wanted one. I was about 17 at the time and had a bit of money saved up. So I did lots of research into parrots and African Greys in particular before finally bringing Alfie home at 11 weeks old from a small family run pet shop. I noticed from the stickied thread in this forum that it is frowned upon to bring home parrots that are still being hand fed. I didn't know that at the time and all the research I had done at the time never brought that up as an issue. Alfie was eating some seeds and I was also feeding him with a spoon. I was still living at home with my parents, sister and German Shepherd dog, Ben (also later joined by a moggy cat- Busta). Alfie always favoured me and the dog over anyone else. He didn't mind the cat but they didn't have much to do with each other. Ben would always get worried if Alfie got spooked by something or was being daft whilst playing and slipped off a toy. Ben would rush up the cage and stick his nose in to check Alfie was ok. Alfie would climb over and pretty much just stick his beak up Ben's nose..! He wasn't being malicious, I think he was just investigating. However, his beak would get a bit wet after doing this! Aaanyway, these days I live on my own (after going from two housemates to one housemate to no housemates) with Alfie and my two crazy cats. I work as an ICT manager in a school (no, I do not get lots of holiday like a teacher). Alfie doesn't mind the cats, even though they're fascinated by him and quite often wander on the top of his cage trying to get a better look. They've never tried to swipe at him and any time Alfie gets fed up of them he'll poke at their feet to get them off the cage (not maliciously- although he has given them a warning shot or two when they haven't moved!). I wouldn't ever let Alfie out in the same room as the cats though as I don't trust the cats not to scare/hurt Alfie and I don't trust Alfie not to hurt the cats. I'm not sure who would come off worse to be honest! Speaking of honesty, I'll be quite up front and honest when I say I've been through a bit of a rubbish time and unfortunately this led to me considering rehoming Alfie. It's been building up for a while now. I work longer hours than ever, especially since taking over my department. I go to the gym two-three times a week (to try and lose that spare tyre round my waist!) and I'm doing a LOT of studying- I'm with the OU studying towards a degree, I'm studying through a work scheme and I'm trying to pick up some certifications along the way too. I am also in a band so go to band practice once a week and sometimes have the odd gig to attend (one or two a month). I felt that I didn't have enough time for Alfie because on the days where I wasn't doing much I'd pretty much just crash out with exhaustion as I don't sleep well most nights and seem to be suffering with a lot of bad headaches/migraines (although I now have medication for that, thankfully). I felt I wasn't able to give Alfie the time and attention he needed and that he was suffering for that. I don't have any problems with him feather plucking or mutilating himself but he shows signs of aggression to people at times. I battled with the decision for weeks, spoke to friends and family, did a lot of research about re-homing and found a good charity who would help with the process and who checked the people out and would make them send regular updates. However, I was absolutely distraught about the idea of giving Alfie up. He's MY parrot. I've had him since 11 weeks old. He's a bit grumpy with other people and can be grumpy with me (but I expect no less since I feel I've let him down) but he's still my parrot, my baby and I don't know if I could forgive myself if I simply just gave up and didn't try harder to make this work for the both of us. In the end I decided I wouldn't give him up. Not now. I decided I would do my best to try and get back on track with Alfie, spend more time with him, get him properly socialised and trained (as I hold my hands up and admit, I fell short there too) and try and give him the life he deserves. If all of that fails and I still feel that he deserves better and that I can't provide it for him, then yes, perhaps the best thing for him would be a new home. But at the moment I am determined to make this work. That's partly why I'm here. I'll be looking through the existing threads and probably be posting a few questions as I go along. I'm currently re-doing all the research I did 9 years ago on training and socialising. I upgraded Alfie's cage to the Liberta enterprise which is HUGE compared to his old cage. I love it and he's settled in to it brilliantly. That was step one, really. I'm over the moon at how well he adapted to the new cage and has explored every inch and seems to be a LOT happier in there with all his new toys as well as all that extra space. My next step is to spend more quality time with Alfie. Get used to handling him without the constant worry of being bitten if he happens to get into a grump. Get him used to being handled without getting in a grump about it. Get him trained so that he knows more than 'step up' and 'turn round' (he sort of knows 'fly to me' too... but mostly needs to be prompted by me holding something he wants). Maybe even teach him a few fun and clever tricks too, if he wants to learn! But most of all, I want him to have a much better time than he has had. I'm the first one to admit that I've made lots of mistakes with Alfie and I expect I'll get some slack over that but it's ok. I haven't been the best parrot owner I can be up to now but I'm looking to change that and will probably need some help and guidance along the way. I hope you'll accept me into your community! -Katrina (and Alfie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvparrots Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Hi Katrina welcome to you and Alfie into the Grey family. Very nice and honest intro by the way. Looking forward to getting to know you and Alfie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoow Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share Posted June 16, 2012 Thank you! I look forward to discussing all things parrot with everyone! I see you have quite a crew there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Wow, GreYt introduction!!! Welcome Katrina and Alfie. It is so good to hear you thought about the re-homing of Alfi for quite a while and came to the wonderful dicision that you could not go on without that wonderful and intelligent Grey that you love so much and he in return. I look forward to hearing all that you have to share also in your 9 years of life with Alfie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoow Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share Posted June 16, 2012 Thanks for the warm welcome danmcq. You're certainly right, the thought of giving him up was horrible but it conflicted with the thought that I was being selfish by keeping him. However, as I think I said in my post, I would much rather try everything I possibly can to keep him and make him happy than just give him up and regret it! I've been browsing round these forums and I've already seen a lot of information just in the one evening so I'm feeling much more confident than I was before. I'm sure I'll have many questions and lots of stories to tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momo Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 welcome neeow!!you can do it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave007 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Hi Katrina Well, a person who is willing to bare her soul be it good or bad. A true triumph. As far as unweeaned babies-----that's referring to people who will purchase 6/7 wk old chicks who are completely unweaned. Strickly on formula. Need to be fed frequently with the right method of doing it. There's been horror stories about that. Many people are duped into buying those babies and others purposely buy those babies even though they don't have the skill to handle that scenario. Those sad stories are on this board going back many years. The other sad part of the story has to do with the sellers of the chicks. basically, they have no soul. The whole thing is about money. Those types of people aren't thought of highly, here and on other bird boards.Here in the US, a person buying a young but weaned bird gets guarantees, warranties, health checks, refunds and when problems arise these things are used. An 11 week old bird is unweaned but can be safely handled with proper instructions. I can tell you that if you were that person years ago who bought a 6/7/8 wk old bird, more than likely, just by your intro you wouldn't have that bird anymore. You had a family at home years ago that helped you. So now you have an adult bird that you hope will adapt. People are here to help out--experience, inexperienced, people who are just starting to turn that corner and people who've been around the block quite a few times. Good luck in whatever decision you make. PS---luckily, in the UK, licensed parrot breeders aren't allowed to sell unweaned parrots. That doesn't hold true here in the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoow Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Thank you momo. And thanks Dave. I hadn't read the whole thread about unweaned babies so thats probably where I was confused about what sort of age was frowned upon. Alfie was eating seeds when I got him and I was spoon feeding him twice a day if I remember rightly. The pet shop I got him from were very good and showed me how to do it. They also let me visit him before taking him home and let me feed him there so he would get used to me and I to him. I couldn't fault them on anything (I would have walked away if I had any doubts!) Thank you everyone for the extremely warm welcome. I'm looking forward to reading about everyone's parrots! Edited June 17, 2012 by neoow typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray P Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Hi Katrina and Alfie and welcome to the grey forum. To start with you are not the first care giver to make mistakes and I will bet you won`t be the last. Every one here has been down that road at one time or anouther Read and post because that is the fun part of this forum. We all share the good, the bad and the ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoow Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Thank you Ray, much appreciated. I've been lurking around the forums over the weekend and there's a lot of useful information here! Glad I stumbled across the site. I see you have quite a hoard of animals there! And I thought I was bad with 2 cats and a parrot! Don't think I could cope with that many critters hehe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 LOL, love your signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezron Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Yeah Katrina and Alfie! You have a home here on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoow Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Haha thanks danmcq! I just happened to snap him looking like that and thought it was quite a pose! Thank you so much chezron (and everyone who has posted). I've been made to feel very welcome, which is great! =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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