CLB Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Okay....my secret is out. I have committed to getting a Panama . I still can't believe it is happening, however, there has been a slight glitch in my plans. I have been watching and handling this clutch since hatch and was expecting to get a boy. To make a long story short, the "boy" I was watching may well be a girl. DOES ANYONE HAVE THOUGHTS (ok, I know you all will have thoughts :rolleyes:) Any advice on choosing an amazon with regard to male or female? I currently have Shadow the grey who loves men most. lol Help...I will likely need to decide tomorrow morning when I visit again. THANKS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray P Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 OK I will put in my two cents. I think a girl is the way to go. IMO you will not have to deal with the hormonal issues that a male zon can bring to the table. I have a blue front female that has very mild issues when she is in season but the BFA male is one of the hot three zons and can be very aggressive when in season, but the different amazon species will very in their temperament. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLB Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Thanks for your input Ray! I am so confused because we picked "our" bird based on it's even temperament even as such a young chick...it was the best behaved during the blood draw for DNA testing even surpassing the original bird we were looking at. My friend is the breeder so I have been trusting her judgement, but she is sincere about me talking to folks who live with these birds into adulthood. She is really an amazing person. Panamas are known for their mild manners, but.......I am hoping more people will respond! Perhaps kharma is on my side, the female DNA is a happy accident and I should go with the best personality?? Edited June 12, 2012 by CLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Good call Ray, our Salsa, female Orange-wing is a real B@#*&^% in season lol. Trade ya..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLB Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Jayd...are you saying a girl is a better choice? Even with the potential for the B*%&$ to surface in season? Shadow was rather OCD when she was in season this spring. I am very interested in your thoughts. Does anyone have experience with the Panama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Jayd...are you saying a girl is a better choice? Even with the potential for the B*%&$ to surface in season?Shadow was rather OCD when she was in season this spring. I am very interested in your thoughts. Does anyone have experience with the Panama? Yes, I agree with Ray... Here you go....http://www.avianweb.com/panamayellowfrontedamazon.html Thanks Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLB Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Thanks again...wish me luck. Visiting babies tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLB Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Well, I spent the better part of the day with the babies....turns out the male is the largest and calmest of the group, however, there is a female available too. She is tiny. Of course they are all very cute! I wish my family had an opinion, but it looks like I am really relying on your input. If you haven't noticed, decision making is not easy for me. I really liked this big boy but after your input and reading a bit more, it seems the female might be a safer choice. The little girl is in the middle with the pale beak, boy is on the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Well, I spent the better part of the day with the babies....turns out the male is the largest and calmest of the group, however, there is a female available too. She is tiny. Of course they are all very cute! I wish my family had an opinion, but it looks like I am really relying on your input. If you haven't noticed, decision making is not easy for me. I really liked this big boy but after your input and reading a bit more, it seems the female might be a safer choice. The little girl is in the middle with the pale beak, boy is on the bottom. Picking a Zon is "like a Box of chocolate, you never know what you'll get". Go with your heart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray P Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I have an idea. Take all three and in five years tell us which one is the best. By than you will be an expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvparrots Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) I have a male BF zon who is now 4 years and 6 months old. He is the sweetest most gentle guy. I've talked about my Louie who won't let me hold him but he does sit on my arm on his terms. He flies to me and sits on my arm as his choice. He is a nibbler, not a true biter. He just seems to need to nibble on me or anyone and I have not figured out why. He is a rehome that I have had for a couple of years now. He is the most liked of my three parrots although he won't like anyone touch him. He will not step up unless I am seated. Why I don't know. Louie is always busy and fully of fun and energy. If he had had a loving home in the beginning I wonder what he would have been like because he so wants to be loved and to love but is afraid. Maybe someday. Choose the zon you want, they are all different and if they are given a loving home that makes all the difference in the world. Edited June 13, 2012 by luvparrots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLB Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Well, taking all three was the suggestion of my teenagers! Not an option!!! Even if it would make me an expert..lol Luvparrots..are you worried what the next few years might bring? Edited June 13, 2012 by CLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kins2321@yahoo.com Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Kiki, our Oranged winged Amazon, is a girl We raised her from sixteen weeks. She is now, at least ten years old. We have never struggled with her hormonal issues, until this year. We survived, but the entire family, was concerned.She's not a great talker, but is the best flyer, more willing to try all new foods. Kiki is kind, tolerates differences with all our birds. Kiki has never bit me, nor would she ever consider doing so. She respects Sophie, our grey, but if she disagrees, she holds her own! Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvparrots Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Luvparrots..are you worried what the next few years might bring? Not at all. Louie doesn't have a mean bone in his body. Whatever comes along we will get through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 The difference between a Grey and a Amazon: If a Zon falls, they say "Oh well, I meant to fall" A Grey will, "step back, look the situation over and think about how bad he wants what ever it is" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLB Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 Well....after much consideration, I think we have decided to go with the tiny girl. She has a very sweet story an I actually saw her the day she hatched! I have always been drawn to tiny.... premature babies, chihuahuas and even my grey is a tiny girl. I can not thank you all enough for your input and look forward to sharing our story with everyone as we watch this little girl grow. I am so lucky that she is less than an hour way in a great place learning how to be a bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvparrots Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Congratulations on your baby Girl! Can't wait to watch her grow with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingy Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Congratulations on your baby. I don't know anything about the Panama and will be interested in your tales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kins2321@yahoo.com Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 CLB.. You are listening to " men's input". LOL! They have great advice.BUT.. it is HARD, to choose male, vs female. If you are unsure, as most are, let your baby pick you. Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLB Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 For the record, the men here were not the only ones contributing advice, there were plenty of ladies with opinions as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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