african grey training module

[dubaighost]

Hi guys,

 

im planning to purchase training modules for 'grey'. Objective is to do over all training 'right' instead of doing 'trial & error' which may lead to some negative effects to 'grey'. Would also want to speed up the training process. As we all know, over all training will take time especially if the execution is wrong.

 

Do you have any recommended training modules in mind? Videos, books, ebooks?

 

Saw this one online (link below),, have anyone tried this?

 

http://www.parrotsecrets.com/Parrot/index1.php?page=training_ebook&src=g&gclid=CInLqbSjzKcCFcF56wodGW6xDQ

 

thanks guys!

[dubaighost]

One more link http://www.birdtricks.com/

[Talon]

There is much here regarding bird tricks. Many members including me don't like the training techniques used.

[Dave007]

http://www.birdtricks.com/ is probably one of the worst instructional aids in the parrot world. The business been around for a long time, has a terrible reputation and uses bad methods of dealing with parrots.

 

I know nothing about the first link you mentioned even though I checked it out. There's nothing that stands out concerning what's in it but I will tell you that there's loads and loads of similar *teaching material* on the market by many, many writers and for that reason comparisons can't be made. Basically, they all say the same thing. Trial and error is necessary because what will work for one bird may not work for another bird. That's one of the basics that all these booklets/DVDs don't bother to mention.

If you haven't gotten your grey yet, the important thing to realize is that the only similarity between my grey and the grey you get is the color of the feathers. As Talon mentioned, there's methods here but the big difference is that here there's loads of different methods that deal with each thing. That's not something you can get from a book.

Edited March 14, 2011 by Dave007

[lino]

i ve got one of the birdtrick.com training course. i find some of the method is not really convincing and a little too troublesome to be done. i agree too that everybird is different and i feel sometime its best when we do not do anything and let the doing the approach.

 

however, the book i got from the birdtrick offer someof the cool idea for trick.

[Greywings]

That one uses what I think of as a negative approach, not a good idea.

[lino]

No, actually the burdtrick never advise on the negative reinforcement.

[Spinner]

I only recommend Barbara Heidenreich's workshops and training DVD's. You may find her videos at http://www.goodbirdinc.com

 

She is very well respected in the animal training community and works closely with behaviour experts around the country. Using her techniques, I've trained my greys to roll over on the back and hold up their feet for their nail trims. I've even used it to train one of my male breeders (who is very very snarky) to let me gently towel him for his monthly beak trimming (he has scissor-beak). All my greys know me as the treat machine and enjoy sharing success with me.

 

For additional reading, check out the following:

 

Sid Price's bird training blog

http://avianambassadors.com/BirdTraining/

 

and

 

Dr Susan Friedman's bird learning and behaviour material

http://www.behaviorworks.org/

 

Please, please, stay away from birdtricks. Their methods spend way too much time on negative reinforcement and wearing down the bird towards complying with commands. With other, better, resources out there, they aren't worth bothering with and may actually create larger problems with your birds.

[lino]

i read the behaviour work and there is alot of wonderful article to read. i will take my time to read them.

 

thanks alot. i will thank you twice if there is another thank button.

its a very very useful websites that you have introduced