Yogurt!

[Girltron]

Wow, Francis LOVES Greek yogurt. He'll eat as much as a half tablespoon at a time if offered. Sometimes he picks it off the spoon with his foot and munches at the glob until it's gone...then looks at his sticky foot as if to wonder why he did that!

 

I don't suppose dairy is all that fantastic, but the extra calcium is bound to be helpful. I've started giving him a teaspoon or so of it each morning.

 

Does the live bacteria maybe help with the digestion of the milk proteins, the way it seems to in humans? I haven't noticed much of a change in his droppings.

[Dave007]

"""""Does the live bacteria maybe help with the digestion of the milk proteins, """""

No. Greys are lactose intolerant and other white dairy products such as yogurt don't help to digest other dairy products. The live bacteria in yogurt won't hurt a bird but giving yogurt everyday isn't a good idea simply because it is a dairy product and it shouldn't be given more than 2 or 3 times a week. Your bird isn't getting any calcium benefits from white dairy products. Any illness from dairy products won't necessarily show up in droppings.

Basically, look at yogurt as a treat.

[JJsHoney]

Rene loves yogurt dipped cinnamon sticks, as long as the yogurt is room temp, he doesn't enjoy anything that is cold... Ill snap some pics as soon as I get more cin. sticks

[Girltron]

They can eat cinnamon sticks? I've got a ton....

 

For the yogurt, I found this: http://www.exoticpetvet.net/avian/dairy.html would you consider this advice suspect, Dave?

[JJsHoney]

I don't know how acceptable everything is on this list but, my cousin has always offered cinnamon as a treat and toy, sometimes they just toss around other times they eat it, I add Cinnamon to Rene's oatmeal and he loves it!!

http://www.landofvos.com/articles/kitchenxv.html

[Dave007]

Giltron, that link seems to cover just about everything I said. I just didn't need that much space but it's a decent link to refer to concerning lactose intolerant birds.

Edited June 24, 2010 by Dave007

[Spock]

Spock here! Yogurt, from girltrons post http://www.exoticpetvet.net/avian/dairy.html

says if any one missed it "Some milk products do not contain lactose, such as cottage cheese and other types of cheese. Generally, it is thought that it is safe to offer yogurt and cheese, although products that contain lactose are probably safe, if offered in small amounts. Interestingly, live culture yogurt does contain lactose when it is produced; however the live organisms in the yogurt consume the lactose, eventually removing the lactose entirely from the yogurt before it is consumed!" Spock's nutritionist and vets have had him on yogurt since Dec. Probiotics, which are found in all kinds of bird product, especially formula, contain "bacillus". Quote"If a Grey is on a pellet-based varied diet - and such a diet may include high calcium foods such as almonds, low fat cheese, yogurt or veggies - he should not be given supplements unless prescribed by an avian vet. "Unquote. http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww26evij.htm

 

Spock

Live Long and Prosper

[Girltron]

Thanks Spock, I read that and that's why I was wondering if Dave would object. I'd like to know what illnesses I might need to worry about that I wouldn't see in his droppings resulting from eating yogurt.

 

The plain greek yogurt I buy is quite tart BTW, and I imagine it's been pretty thoroughly digested by the cultures. It's not like some of those sweet commercial yogurts. I don't have problems with it myself, and I don't eat any other dairy so otherwise I'd have discomfort from it.

[Dave007]

***I read that and that's why I was wondering if Dave would object.***

 

Girl, there's really no reason about worrying about whether *Dave would object*. Type what you please. Say what you please. Don't worry about what I or others think. Opinions and answers will come your way. If you wanna talk, others will talk back. If you ask about things, people give opinions or answers.

 

The only exception to what I said above concerns the subjects of quantum majoricle rooping. Glacial commentical energy powers the rontitors which will in turn create the spacial roundness of a planet closest to the orbits. The directional direction must be exact and the time travel will be minimized. On the other hand, distance is needed with remote viewing. The speed should be very concentrated so that a complete avastmin of the surrounding time warps allows remote viewing with the weight of existence. Seeking the exterior planet posteriors will be interesting if the distance is rated on the basic time lapse. Incurring any spacial vehicles will allow for smooth exchanges of the northly distance. The complex return will be monitored by the quantum seed seekers therefore making the the conversation altered. Therefore, because of the above, it has been ruled that yogurt is designed and processed in many color shades, have different tastes, can be entered and formed into many different styles, used by different areas in the earthly existence and can be consumed by the general population. This is now a fact according to the Manifesto Of Lar.

Edited June 26, 2010 by Dave007

[judygram]

The only exception to what I said above concerns the subjects of quantum majoricle rooping. Glacial commentical energy powers the rontitors which will in turn create the spacial roundness of a planet closest to the orbits. The directional direction must be exact and the time travel will be minimized. On the other hand, distance is needed with remote viewing. The speed should be very concentrated so that a complete avastmin of the surrounding time warps allows remote viewing with the weight of existence. Seeking the exterior planet posteriors will be interesting if the distance is rated on the basic time lapse. Incurring any spacial vehicles will allow for smooth exchanges of the northly distance. The complex return will be monitored by the quantum seed seekers therefore making the the conversation altered.

 

Say what!

[JJsHoney]

***The only exception to what I said above concerns the subjects of quantum majoricle rooping. Glacial commentical energy powers the rontitors which will in turn create the spacial roundness of a planet closest to the orbits. The directional direction must be exact and the time travel will be minimized. On the other hand, distance is needed with remote viewing. The speed should be very concentrated so that a complete avastmin of the surrounding time warps allows remote viewing with the weight of existence. Seeking the exterior planet posteriors will be interesting if the distance is rated on the basic time lapse. Incurring any spacial vehicles will allow for smooth exchanges of the northly distance. The complex return will be monitored by the quantum seed seekers therefore making the the conversation altered.

 

LOL I think this is the first time that I have stopped reading a post because I simply just did not understand!! LOL