Jayd Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 (edited) Well, It seems like everything might be coming together finally. I don't think we'll ever know what the major illness was, the antibiotics took care of it, but the cause of Spocks condition might be solved. As you might remember, Spocks symptoms were[are], Tired, no weight gain, weight loss, no absorption of vital nutrient's and feather disorder. While on supplements, he improved, his weight increased as well as his energy. and his blood chemistry was better. When he was taken off the supplements, he started to relapse. We restarted his supplements and his weight has returned, as well as energy and general well being, and a huge appetite. So, Spock's diet should have warned us, as some of you stated, "he needs a 5th opinion!". Well, right-on. Spock eats no pellets, and very few seed, he seeks out and gobbles "CARB's", the word's "high metabolism" were said many time's. Any guess? Hypoglycemia!!!!!, low blood sugar!!!!! [pancreas] He seeks out carb's, carb's convert to sugar, sugar equals energy!!!!! Something is wrong with his pancreas. [Diabetes?] He has a resistance that is keeping his body from adsorbing nutrients and sugar. He's hyper all the time, from his diet, thank God for his diet, now we have to learn how to balance his diet!!!!! So all of the vet's were right to a extent, it took a 5th opinion! I'm diabetic and didn't see it.We have to wait and see, more test, he's opposite of regular diabetes, low blood sugar instead of high...Spock was raised on a regular diet of pellets and seed etc, it wasn't till he became sick that he sleeked out high carbs..... Love you all Jayd, Maggie and Spock NOTE: A question that has floated around is "What doe's a Grey eat in the wild if he's sick? Spock might show that a Grey can take care of themselves in the wild..... Edited June 6, 2010 by Jayd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Jay you might have hit the nail on the head and that can be controlled by his diet if I am correct but it does make you feel better to at least have an idea of what is wrong with Spock, I guess the next step is a vet visit to confirm your suspicions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 J I guess the next step is a vet visit to confirm your suspicions. Thank you Judy, the 5th opinion is that of the vet!!! Just waiting on tests!!!!! Thanks so much US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joolesgreyuk Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Thanks for the update Jay. At least you now have something to work on and some answers. You deserve a medal for your persistance and Spock is a very lucky grey to have yourself and Maggie on his side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debandbella Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Hopefully you will get to the bottom of it soon, hes a big worry to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearllyn Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Wow, it's great to be able to get to the bottom of it, even though you were controlling it, it's a relief for you to know what is actually causing it and be able to put a "label" on it! Hopefully the tests will confirm it. x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 Yes Lyn such a relief, It looks like a special diet for life, he's worth it...... Jayd, Maggie, ME TOO Spock and the flock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw310 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 So glad that your persistance is yielding some answers. At least you have a clue what you're dealing with. You're a great Daddy to Spock. He's on lucky little guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossfit Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 wow excellent news. Big kisses for Spock. I was thinking of him this weekend actually for no serious reason. Actually my parrot lay on his back with my son and I remembered the picture of Spock on his back. Its funny how often you all are in my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvparrots Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Hopefully now something long term can be done to help Spock. Way to go Maggie and Jay to keep on searching until a proper solution is found. Hooray!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Edited August 9, 2010 by jacarual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessdecutie18 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Your persistence with Spock and his recovery is great, and I love hearing about him! Glad he is regaining that weight and a special diet seems to be helping him on the road to recovery. Best wishes to you guys, as always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JillyBeanz Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 How thoroughly bizarre!! I really hope that this is the cause as you will be able to moderate his diet/administer drugs to control it. Just goes to show, your most trusted vet isn't always right. Will bear this in mind for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Wonderful news that you have a rock solid answer and it can be treated with proper diet changes and suppliments. Did the vet mention if their are any drugs that may treat low blood sugar in parrots? Thanks for the idate on Spock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme575 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Thanks for the update! That is interesting for sure. Keep us posted, especially one you have the diet totally stabalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Jayd forgot to mention that since we resumed the supplements, Spock's put on 10 grams in 5 days, and is pretty much stable at 440 to 444 grams after big bomb now for over 2 weeks..... Thanks Maggie:o Thanks Everyone!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvparrots Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Totally happy for you Spock!!!! As a diabetic myself, you have my utmost support for a healthy life for you!!!! kiss, kiss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 Totally happy for you Spock!!!! As a As a diabetic myself, you have my utmost support for a healthy life for you!!!! kiss, kiss! This is what bothers me the most, as a diabetic, I didn't see it,:mad: he showed all the symptoms of low blood sugar, and I was well aware of birds being diabetic!!! Thanks all:) Jayd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JillyBeanz Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I've never been happier to hear someone is putting ON weight! We usually celebrate weight loss!! Go on Spock - you can add a bit more!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingles Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 yea!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana600 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Your dedication is inspirational. Glad to hear you have a direction to get Spock to opitimal health! Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Don't feel so bad Jay, sometimes we have the answer staring us in the face and we don't recognize it for what it is but it is revealed now and Spock will be the picture of health soon and congrats on the weight gain, way to go Spock, you are on course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme575 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I agree Jay, you can't feel bad about not recognizing it! Look at how many people run around with diabetes themselves without recognizing it. Even with the same symptoms it may have been different in birds unless you had seen it before. You said it yourself, it took 5 different vets to see it, and they have the training! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggieroo Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I never knew birds could be diabetic. Well at least you know what's wrong, must be a relief & now you can treat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I am so happy he's doing so well! Thanks for this update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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