Aoodi doesn't look good

[hbalkhi]

OK.... I'm really afraid :eek:. Aoodi doesn't seems good, his behave changed much, he used to whistle and do funny sounds. But these last days he just stay silent, his throat or under his beak area is a bit puffed, his tongue seems to have a white spots and his saliva looks a bit more viscous and it get out of his beak and dropping around.

 

What's happening?

 

Please answer me as quickly as possible. Really scary situation for me :eek:.

 

Thank you.

[judygram]

He needs to be seen by an avian vet ASAP and hurry.

[Xtreme575]

I agree, ideally, get right to an avian vet, if you don't have one in your area, then a vet at the very least. This sounds really concerning!

[hbalkhi]

I really want to. But Unfortunately, I heard about a lot of fake avians in my country, which made many birds die. This is the first thing. The other thing is the nearest avian is 3 hours away from my city.

 

And by the way, how do I know if the avian I'm going to is good one and he has a well knowledge of birds?

 

God... My heart is crying cause of that.....

[Jayd]

I really want to. But Unfortunately, I heard about a lot of fake avians in my country, which made many birds die. This is the first thing. The other thing is the nearest avian is 3 hours away from my city.

And by the way, how do I know if the avian I'm going to is good one and he has a well knowledge of birds?

God... My heart is crying cause of that.....

#1 he's worth the 3 hour's, #2 Good chance he'll die if you don't go to Vet, #3, 50-50 chance you'll get a good Vet.

A bird is real sick when he starts showing signs of being sick....Take the poor thing to the vet!!!!!

[Joolesgreyuk]

You really don't have a choice do you. If you don't get him to a vet he will die anyway, he sounds very poorly to me. If you don't trust an avian try a normal vet - if these are any more trustworthy, if not you will just have to go to your nearest avian in the hope it is a good one. Good luck and please do keep us informed.

[Jayd]

You need no more advice!!!! Help the poor baby!!!!!

[ranaz]

OMG...just hurry before you lose your baby

 

Greys can be sick for a while before it starts to show...once it does...you dont have lots of time....We'll pray for him...

[judygram]

Aoodi is really sick and needs help NOW, do what you have to get him some help or you will lose him.

[Jayd]

- If you see any sign of yeast (white spots in mouth or on tongue), call the vet and get an antifungal preparation to give with the antibiotic.ASAP!!!!!!!!!!

[Jayd]

1) Birds use a considerable amount of their energy and metabolic resources in keeping their body temperature up (at around 104 degrees.). Therefore, the single most important thing you can do for a sick bird is to artificially support its temperature, thus freeing as much of its energy as possible for dealing with the illness. The correct temperature is at least 85 degrees, and 90 degrees is preferable. Turn up the heat past 85 until the bird begins to pant, then slowly back it off just until the panting stops. When the bird begins to recover, remember to lower the temp gradually, no more than 5 degrees per day, until back to room temp.

2) Humidity is extremely important in cases of respiratory involvement in the illness, as it eases the breathing and helps the bird keep the air passages clear and moist. A vaporizer is best, a humidifier will work, and in a pinch placing the bird in the bathroom and periodically running hot water in the shower is better than nothing. If there is NO respiratory involvement, or the bird is physically injured and not ill, humidity is not so important. Respiratory involvement is indicated by any of the following: wheezy, raspy, bubbly, or clicking noises in the breathing; discharge from nostrils; breathing heavily or with difficulty (if the tail moves noticeably as the bird breathes, it is breathing heavily); beak held open to breathe but not panting.

3) A sick bird is easily dehydrated, especially since it may not drink as much on its own, its temperature is elevated, and its digestion may be disrupted. In extreme cases a veterinarian may administer fluids under the skin, but oral fluids are also very helpful. If your bird isn't drinking a lot on its own, give fluids from your finger, a spoon, or by syringe. Some suggestions for fluids to give: Infalyte brand infant electrolyte solution, apple or grape juice, D5W (medical glucose/saline solution), bottled water with a little sugar or honey. Don't use Gatorade, it's too high in salt!

4) As you are maximizing the amount of energy the bird can use in fighting the illness by elevating the ambient temperature, you should also ensure that food energy continues to be available. The best things to give a sick bird are high in carbohydrates and easy to digest. Examples: hand-feeding formula, infant rice cereal, baby food, ground-up pellets mixed with fruit juice, molasses, honey, Instant Ounces brand emergency food for birds, cream of wheat, papaya juice or nectar, fruit juice (except orange). If your bird doesn't eat on its own while ill, you need to hand feed it, or force feed it if necessary. Birds can starve to death in 48 - 72 hours when healthy, and can go even faster when ill. Inadequate nutrition will severely impact the bird's ability to recover from the illness. 5) Keep an ill or injured bird quiet and inactive. Keep it in semidarkness with no toys and nothing to climb or play on, much as you would keep a sick child in bed and encourage it to sleep. Limit noisy activities or move the bird to a quiet part of the house. Additional notes: If the bird regurgitates food or fluids, you may be giving too much. Try smaller amounts more frequently. If your bird is on antibiotic therapy, remember that these drugs also kill the "friendly" bacteria that help it to digest its food. Give yogurt, bene-bac, lactobacillus supplement, or acidophilus to help digestion and to prevent backlash Candida (yeast) infections. If you see any sign of yeast (white spots in mouth or on tongue), call the vet and get an antifungal preparation to give with the antibiotic.

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[hbalkhi]

OK.... I just came back from looking. And Unfortunately, I called many avians and all said they closed and there's no way I can bring Aoodi to them.

 

I'm gonna tell you what happened.

 

I called many.. but I interested in 2 avian and here is what happened:

 

First, I called an avian near my city, he said "Its an easy thing, you just need bills for the thing the bird have it, and no need for me to see your parrot".

So... I felt happy, its an easy thing. After a few minutes I called other Avian and he said "What the first avian told you is not true, this disease doesn't effect parrots, and you must bring him to me tomorrow morning so I can see him, and also he must stay here for few days"

 

And now I don't know what to do .... I don't care about the time I'll spend for Aoodi, I wish I can send him to a trustable avian in your country, but I can't ...

 

Please I need your advice, since I can't do anything tonight (All avians are closed till tomorrow morning), Which avian you guess he'll help, the first one or the second one?

 

And by the way.. since many of you are have experience in parrots, Is there a disease called " Canker " effect parrots? And if you know how to treat it, How?

 

Hmm... If anyone of you can ask any avian he trust, about what's happening to Aoodi, and what disease it may be? and how to treat it?

 

Please I really want cry, don't let me feel that I'm not caring about Aoodi ... I LOVE him so much.

 

Thank you so much for caring and helping ..

[Joolesgreyuk]

hbalkhi, you need to get anti fungal for your baby as soon as possible but you need a vet's advice for the correct dosage. If I were you I'd phone the first one again and ask him for advice, he is your nearest and time is not on your side. You must act quickly to save your baby.

[Jayd]

What is? Its an easy thing, you just need bills for the thing the bird have it? Canker sounds like "Canker Sores" A human Herpes sore we get on and in our mouths, I've never heard of a bird getting it!!! It sounds like a fungus, I'm no Vet, but Aoodi needs one!!! Jayd

[eubankclare]

aw i hope you find help soon, do the vets in your country not do out of hours or emergency call outs?

[hbalkhi]

My country got few vets, and most got no emergency call outs..

[hbalkhi]

Hmm... So Jayd which avian I should go to, the first or the second?

[Jayd]

Hmm... So Jayd which avian I should go to, the first or the second?

I can't tell you! The first vet was wrong, what the second vet said is true, Parrots don't get cancer sores, BUT, they could get the same virus[?]

You have to decide what you feel in your heart. I'm Sorry, Call a third or forth Vet till you feel right! Jayd

[eubankclare]

could you post a pic of the parrot so we could maybe see, I dont have a grey yet but it may help the more experienced people ???

Defo keep ringing vets though, they should say similar things to you

[hbalkhi]

I would like to, but Aoodi is sleeping now .. and I don't want wake him up..

 

I guess I'm going to the second avian... not decided yet. But I'm still looking.

[Jayd]

What does his poop look like? Jayd

[hbalkhi]

Normal as always, green with some white lines.

[Jayd]

Normal as always, green with some white lines.

That's not normal! It should be some Green string, some white paste and clear fluid!!!

Jayd

[hbalkhi]

Yeah, I meant that. But didn't describe it right, sorry

[Georgiesmum]

Any chance this is a hoax?