Dave007 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) There are a lot of things you should know before deciding to buy a bird as a pet. We want you to be happy with your bird, and we've found that it's best to prepare potential bird owners by pointing out the down side first. After falling in love with and buying a bird, many people find that birds just don't fit into their lifestyle after all. We take in many unwanted birds and try to find homes for them. It's heartbreaking when someone has no choice but to get rid of their bird, even though they've grown extremely attached, and perhaps it's sadder for the bird, as birds are capable of forming strong attachments to humans, and it can take months or even years before they can adapt to a new home. We try to do our part to help anyone and any bird in such a situation, but we'd rather prevent it from occurring in the first place. That's why we want you to make an informed decision, so that both you and your bird will be happy. The following ten points are the most frequent concerns and complaints we hear from new bird owners: l. ------This is the most demanding animal I've ever had. Don't be mislead by salespeople and magazines who try to popularize birds and promote their suitability as pets by selling them as an easy animal to care for. They are anything but easy to care for. Not only are their nutritional and environmental needs exacting, but also mentally and emotionally they are so extremely sophisticated that many people find the relationship to be too demanding. Birds in the wild are either monogamous and bond for life or live in flocks and bond periodically. In a natural environment they would not be exposed to the experience of being alone. They are together more than most human couples would find tolerable. Although it is true that a bird, even a large parrot, can adapt to a nine-to-five person's schedule, many people find after buying one that this is hardly the best situation and feel guilty for leaving the bird alone for such long periods. This leads to another problem at times, when people decide to get a friend for their bird and find owning two to be nothing short of twice the difficulty of caring for one. 2.------ He's bored and unhappy. He doesn't do anything. She's laying eggs all the time. It's pulling its feathers out. I think he needs a friend. Deciding to get a companion for your bird is a difficult thing to do. In many if not most situations however, birds are happier when paired, and at some point in a bird's life, one of its owners, if not the only owner, decides to "set the bird up" with one of its own kind. This will inevitably lead to some degree of what can only be called the loss of pet quality. Once a bird has bonded with a bird mate, its attachment to humans has to decrease somewhat. Many people find the bird's new behavior difficult to handle. The closeness they once felt with their pet is now absent. Even worse is the frequent outcome where the birds don't get along at all and the owner simply finds himself with the problem compounded. Of course there are solutions. Keeping birds of different species who can provide company if not companionship for one another is a good idea. Birds can also get along with other animals, and if approached creatively, keeping a single pet bird can be quite satisfying for the owner, and a happy situation for the bird. 3.------- My apartment is a mess. Birds are messy. They don't really care where they go to the bathroom. It is possible to "toilet train" some species, but this is difficult and time consuming. Birds also tend to scatter their food, and feathers seem to be around all the time. The flapping of wings can make seed and feathers travel some distance from the cage or play area as well. Although there are measures you can take to minimize the mess, you cannot hope to eliminate it. 4. -------He chews on everything. Birds, especially parrots, love and need to chew. Toys are designed to provide an outlet for this very natural behavior, but unless you limit your bird's mobility and access, he will make toys of your books, picture frames and furniture. Again, this is more of a problem with larger birds, but even small chewers like lovebirds and parakeets are capable of being extremely destructive. 5. ------I can't stand the noise. This is a major problem for some people. Birds make all kinds of sounds and noises. There are some that are quieter than others are, but some people find even the low-volume chattering of finches to be monotonous and annoying. Among the larger birds, cockatoos and amazons are the loudest. Conures are capable of incessant screeching, and even parakeets and lovebirds can give rise to complaints from neighbors. 6. -------It doesn't talk. Many people find the capacity for speech to be the most appealing reason for buying a parrot. Be forewarned. Even if you buy a bird with an outstanding reputation for talking such as an African Grey or an Amazon parrot, there is no guarantee that it will ever speak. If you have your heart set on a talking bird, you would be well advised to buy one that already speaks. Otherwise you may be very disappointed. And besides, even the most talented of talkers needs time to learn. Birds usually don't start talking until one or two years of age. 7. -------It bites. And it's true. Birds bite. They sometimes even bite the hand that feeds them and the person to whom they've bonded. It's not like a dog biting. Birds certainly do bite out of aggression, but it's more likely to be out of fear, frustration or anger. Birds bite one another as part of their natural interaction, and they expect us to tolerate some degree of this natural behavior. It's a means of communication that leaves many people feeling hurt and rejected. To put it simply: birds are excellent communicators. Biting is a way of saying "I don't like that," and a very effective way of saying it at that. We humans are often not so direct or assertive, and we tend to hold a grudge when somebody or some bird is more assertive than we are. I personally think that if any of my birds didn't bite me whether it's soft or hard, then there's something wrong with that bird. 8. -------He doesn't like anyone but me. I'm the only one who can handle him. Birds are often purchased as family pets, and many birds are quite gregarious and friendly with a variety of people. But quite often, birds become closely bonded to individuals and will not tolerate handling by anyone but their chosen person. In fact, many times this turns out to be someone in the family other than the person who wanted the bird as a pet in the first place. Flock birds tend to be more social, whereas birds who spend little or no time in flocks in the wild will be less likely to get along with more than one person. 9.-------- I've spent hundreds of dollars on veterinary bills. Avian medicine is very specialized. There are few avian experts around. Tests, procedures, and treatments tend to be expensive. In addition, birds tend to exhibit symptoms only at the point where they are fairly if not acutely ill, and treatment at that point is often of an emergency nature and therefore more costly. l0.------- I'm moving. I'm getting married. The baby sitter is allergic. Etc. Birds live a long time. Budgies, or parakeets, can live well into their teens, and among the larger parrots, ages of eighty years or more are well documented. However, the statistics may be misleading. Most birds succumb to illness or accidental death long before nature runs its course. Still, it's important to remember that your bird may outlive you or your current lifestyle. In fact, many birds will outlive more than one owner. So consider this: birds all last a long time. Pets don't "grow up" like our children do. They are forever dependent on us for their continued survival and well being. If you still want a pet bird, there can only be one reason. Birds are fantastic pets. To those of us who love them, they are truly incredible and capable of the most amazing expressions of charm, intelligence and love. If you have what it takes to be a bird owner, and you know what you're getting into, then you're probably in for the pet experience of a lifetime. Also remember that the bird who is called a *pre owned* is a bird that will give much happiness to people even if it's not the specific happiness that people are looking for. * Pre owned* birds are in a class of their own and also unique. One other important thing here--- A person should really take the time to check out whether certain species of parrots should actually be good as a pet * for anyone*, There's a few that I really don't think should be pets at all but that's another subject. Congratulations on making a responsible decision, whether it's to own a bird or not. Good luck and be happy. Edited April 22, 2010 by Dave007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 GreYt post Dave... It's stick-a-fied. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvparrots Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Another great thread Dr. Flock. We don't have karma anymore but we do have thumb's up. So here's one for you! This is a thread that all persons looking to purchase a parrot or any bird should read. Thanks Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Dave, This is FANTASTIC! It couldn't have come at a more appropriate time with a lot of people being mislead by sales persons and wanting a bird that talks. I have recommended this thread for others. Jay Karma +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittykittykitty Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 thank you, dave!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teagrr Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Very well put and to the point.... TY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Thank you Dave so much for this post, it couldn't have come at a better time. Karma+1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janfromboone Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Great post Dave! I should have read that before Tobie came to me. Happily, I'm having the "pet experience of a lifetime". Couldn't have said it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme575 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Dave, what a fantastic job on writing this! Very impressive, I'd like to see this go viral on the internet in the hopes that more people considering a bird for a pet would realize what they are getting themselves in for. I read a few books, checked out some parrots at stores, and really considered the fact that my life would change, if not forever, than for a really long time. After much thought, I still wanted to move forward, and boy am I glad I did... My experience has also had the opposite effect on many coworkers who thought they wanted a bird. Just my telling them the amount of cooking I have to do for my parrot changed their minds on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearllyn Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 This is a good thread and it should be compulsory for every prospective bird owner to read it! Dave, do you mind if I copy and paste it to a few places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbpittman Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Brilliant as usual Dr. Flock! Thanks for keeping us all honest when we talk about our birds to some who may be looking to get a pet bird. You hit the nail on the head and I agree it should be required reading for anyone considering getting a bird. Two Thumbs Up! Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert58 Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 great post Dave. I have an exception with #9 tho. Most non-bird-people bird owners don't actually spend the $$ to properly care for their fids. We have a large flock (7 fids) and so our annual vet visit is around $1k. The staff is nothing short of floored that we pay that without blinking. Rule #9, IMO: Your fids cost LOT. do your research. They're more expensive than dogs or cats (vet bills + toys + nutritious pellets + mash + cage cleaning mats + treats + fruits/veggies + everything I forgot). You can't properly care for a fid unless you're prepared to drop at least $300 US a month on them. Make your own toys? fine. make your own Mash? great. it's still not cheap and don't kid yourself. I cut every corner I can but they get the best care/food/environment I can provide. These critters aren't hampsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave007 Posted May 21, 2010 Author Share Posted May 21, 2010 Those 10 Reasons are aimed at non bird people who have never had a parrot, know nothing about parrots, know nothing about the bad situations that are commonly talked about and which may arise. BUT, they're thinking about buying a parrot. Basically, it's written in order to hopefully make sure that non bird people remain non bird people unless they know what's ahead on that road. It's necessary for those people to learn that a different way of living is inevitable. What happens to a non bird person who decides to become a non bird owner isn't addressed in those reasons. That's a whole diffent situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 (edited) great post Dave. I have an exception with #9 tho. Most non-bird-people bird owners don't actually spend the $$ to properly care for their fids. We have a large flock (7 fids) and so our annual vet visit is around $1k. The staff is nothing short of floored that we pay that without blinking. Rule #9, IMO: Your fids cost LOT. do your research. They're more expensive than dogs or cats (vet bills + toys + nutritious pellets + mash + cage cleaning mats + treats + fruits/veggies + everything I forgot). You can't properly care for a fid unless you're prepared to drop at least $300 US a month on them. Make your own toys? fine. make your own Mash? great. it's still not cheap and don't kid yourself. I cut every corner I can but they get the best care/food/environment I can provide. These critters aren't hampsters. Were down to 24 fid's now, plus the ones we help. Up until this year we usually kept 40 plus. I won't even give a hint what Spock's cost the last 5+ months, it doesn't matter!!!Dave's right on!!!!!!! Jayd, Maggie and Spock and the flock...... Edited May 21, 2010 by Jayd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert58 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Those 10 Reasons are aimed at non bird people who have never had a parrot, know nothing about parrots, know nothing about the bad situations that are commonly talked about and which may arise. BUT, they're thinking about buying a parrot. Basically, it's written in order to hopefully make sure that non bird people remain non bird people unless they know what's ahead on that road. It's necessary for those people to learn that a different way of living is inevitable. What happens to a non bird person who decides to become a non bird owner isn't addressed in those reasons. That's a whole diffent situation. Wow. sorry. Never mind. BTW a non bird person becoming a non bird owner probably isn't reading this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana600 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Actually, I read the forum for months before bringing a bird home and I am grateful that there is honesty about the amount of work, mess, commitment and expense so I went in with eyes wide open and sleeves rolled up for the hard parts too. I think the main idea conveyed by the dedicated parrot lovers and rescuers is that a parrot isn't a try-out pet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert58 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Actually, I read the forum for months before bringing a bird home and I am grateful that there is honesty about the amount of work, mess, commitment and expense so I went in with eyes wide open and sleeves rolled up for the hard parts too. I think the main idea conveyed by the dedicated parrot lovers and rescuers is that a parrot isn't a try-out pet. Not sure if you're responding to my post or not. I stated: "a non bird person becoming a non-bird owner probably isn't reading this forum" so that wouldn't be you. If I misread your post, then never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozziebird Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 great post, i've helped many in my area either rehome or re assess how they look after them sometimes its just minor changes needed, there are so many genuine keepers that can no longer keep birds for very valid reasons but it breaks my heart week in week out when you see, 'had him 3 years and allergic' 'work commitments forces sale' then you see them and they are in tiny cages and owners have no idea how to keep them or what they have let themselves in for, if I ever won the lottery I'd have the biggest grey home going ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karunk Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 this is an invaluable post.. but admins, can we get such posts that people should read even before they buy a bird and make that a forum.. something like THE GREY LOUNGE.. we can call it, FOR PROSPECTIVE PET OWNERS.. this will help because, otherwise people who want to get an AG would just go there and go thro the posts.. now, they would have to search the entire list of forums to find something relevant, or have to create a new post which would probably be history in a few weeks!! thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave007 Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 The list was put into the most visited section on this board which is the Grey Lounge. There are things that don't even belong in the Grey Lounge and that's because many people don't seek out other sections here that deal with certain subjects. Every time a person be it a new person or regular member can see the post as well as other posts that are stickys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) We always love suggestion! Thank You Jayd Edited July 22, 2010 by Jayd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Cat Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Thank you for posting this, and I couldn't agree more on some of the points. Most people only see the pretty bird gracing the pet shop window that talks and sits nicely on its perch. People don't see the hard work, determination and sheer devotion you need to have as a bird owner. I've only had my grey about 5 weeks and I know she's a handful, but I love having her with me....and finding bits of nut and feathers everywhere. Haha. Wouldn't be the same without it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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