Supernova Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 If birds came from Dinosaurs. What type do grays come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 ............................................................................................................................................??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I can't imagine......:pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Do you know Bernie or are you asking us?:blink: :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share Posted October 28, 2009 No idea but it could be intresting, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Well why don't you find out for us and let us know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
particle77 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Scientific knowledge in this area is still incomplete, but I believe all birds are currently thought to be descended from a family of dinosaurs called "Dromaeosauridae" (the raptors in Jurassic Park belong to this family). However there is also some debate about whether Dromaeosauridae should be classified as dinosaurs, or birds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I believe God just created them for us to love and be loved. :-) They are unique..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 danmcq wrote: I believe God just created them for us to love and be loved. :-) They are unique..... I agree, very unique!!:cheer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raleej337 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Science: they from dinosaurs Religion: God created them as they are What if we mix them and say they are created in the garden of eden while the dinosaurs roam outside the garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecodweeb Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 particle77 wrote: Scientific knowledge in this area is still incomplete, but I believe all birds are currently thought to be descended from a family of dinosaurs called "Dromaeosauridae" (the raptors in Jurassic Park belong to this family). However there is also some debate about whether Dromaeosauridae should be classified as dinosaurs, or birds... Interesting. I can see the relationship in intelligence and cunning maneuvers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvparrots Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Pterosaurs, flying reptiles, also known as pterodactyls. Dan's Dayo, by his own admission is a pterodactyl!!!!! :laugh: :lol: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I won't go into a creation versus evolution debate on this forum. I will only say, I did not evolve from an ape...... The imagery and imaginations we read and see in mock up animations are just the individuals fantasy. They have no idea what color these creatures were, if they had fur or feathers and no clue what they sounded like. They also do not have a clue of the intelligence. It is all just theory and speculation...... All I know, is if saw any of the prehistoric critters coming my way, I would run like hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 I won't go into a creation versus evolution debate on this forum. I agree Dan, That was not the question. Just thought of the conection if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
particle77 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 danmcq wrote: They have no idea what color these creatures were, if they had fur or feathers There actually is fossil evidence of feathers for several species of dinosaur. In addition, because of the way feathers produce color, some feather fossils actually contain enough information to identify the color of the feather (as far as I know this has only been done with extinct birds, not dinosaurs feathers) That said, the main point is correct. the dinosaurs in Jurasic Park appear bird like because they were modeled after birds during movie production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearllyn Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Interesting right enough. With the bite alfie has on her - I'd vote raptor, but a friendly one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecodweeb Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=115484 Iridescence Found in 40-Million-Year-Old Fossil Bird Feather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 Very interesting, so my flying tin opener could be from a small raptor. :ohmy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Actually, it just proves birds existed 40 million years ago (If you believe carbon dating accuracy). It is not a dino attached to that feather, it was a bird. :-)<br><br>Post edited by: danmcq, at: 2009/10/29 21:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecodweeb Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Just saying, birds of olde seem to have had more interesting color mutations. Which brings us into the solid red african grey mutation that was bred in captivity. not to mention the white tailed AG, the albino and the "F2" that has a red stripe of feathers across the belly or back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
particle77 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 danmcq wrote: Actually, it just proves birds existed 40 million years ago (If you believe carbon dating accuracy). It is not a dino attached to that feather, it was a bird. :-)<br><br>Post edited by: danmcq, at: 2009/10/29 21:00 I beleive I said that too. Doesn't change the fact that dino feather fossils exist (I saw them when they were touring the museum circuit) I was just adding that the possability for determining feather color based purely on fossils exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 particle77 wrote: [Doesn't change the fact that dino feather fossils exist (I saw them when they were touring the museum circuit)I was just adding that the possability for determining feather color based purely on fossils exists. Actually, it does not exist "Yet". It may in the future. I qoute: ""The ‘Holy Grail' is reconstructing the colors of feathered dinosaurs," said Yale graduate student and paper lead author Jakob Vinther. "We are working hard to determine if this will be possible."" All the points and comments brought out in this thread are truly informative and interesting. Thank you all for building on this topic. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
particle77 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Just to be clear, thats saying determining the color of a dino feather has not been done yet. Which I also said in my original post. It is not saying that there is no evidence that dinosaurs had feathers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feathered_dinosaurs#Fossil_evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 For eveyones information.... The oldest known "bird" Archaeopteryx by our definition: http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/birds/archaeopteryx.html <br><br>Post edited by: danmcq, at: 2009/10/29 22:39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 danmcq wrote: For eveyones information.... The oldest known "bird" Archaeopteryx by our definition: http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/birds/archaeopteryx.html <br><br>Post edited by: danmcq, at: 2009/10/29 22:39 That is the pic that got me thinking in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamsDad Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Geeze, great question! Couldn't begin to offer a guess but I DO find it funny imagining an 8 ton T-Rex running around beeping, burping, laughing, clucking, quacking, talking and making the sound of a telephone ringing! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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