Tari Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 here's some information from "Avian Medicine: Principles and Application- Abridged Edition" by Ritchie, Harrison and Harrison. Excessive comsumption of salt can lead to: polydipsia: excessive or abnormal thirst polyuria: excessive passage of urine depression neurologic excitement tremors opisthotonos: severe spasm in which the back arches and the head bends back and heels flex toward the back ataxia: loss of coordination death On the other hand, a deficit of sodium can also cause problems: In some parrots, sodium deificiency may play a role in some cases of self mutilation. It can also lead to: "a decrease in cardiac output", hemoconcentration: fluid is removed from the blood resulting in a higher concentration of red blood cells- thicker blood reduced utilization of protein and carbohydrates soft bones corneal keratinization: keratin (the protein that makes up hair, skin, and nails) is deposited in the cornea gonadal inactivity adrenal hypertrophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Tari, very good information. Thank you for researching and sharing that with us. The question I have, is how much salt is too much? Talon loves nachos, and they are loaded with salt. How many does anyone think is safe to allow her. (I know that zero is the safest) But, I have family members that think sharing is "nice", when actually "safe" is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I know salt is on the list of no no's, but it occurs naturally in lots of foods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tari Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 All I could find says excess amount not how much that is. Guess it would vary from bird to bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lidia Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Tari, an occasional treat is going to be fine. I wouldn't let her eat more than one or two nachos and certainly not every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Thanks, Lidia, I'm trying to get the rest of my family to behave and not give them to her. But maybe now they can READ it here!:evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tari Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Ya I know Ill be cuting back on the chips and stuff. Bought some cheerios to give them instead. Whole grain. Good treat or and mine love the zupreem Parrot Crunch. I let my hubby feed that and they only get it from him so that they think of him as a good thing incase he ever wants to hold one. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookyhurst Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Nikko loves stuff like crackers and tortilla chips, but I limit them. I also wipe off any excess salt particles stuck on the chips. The ratio of potassium to sodium that should be fed to a bird is 3:1, so perhaps if you feed a high potassium food with nachos, it will balance everything out? Just a wild theory. Nikko's blood work was pretty good recently, but her potassium could stand to be a tiny bit better and her sodium a tiny bit lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lidia Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 It is hard. I only have to think "chocolate" and I swear Joshua's ears prick up. And I don't think he particularly likes or wants chocolate, I think he wants it because he sees my reaction to it. ps. And I am sorry, Talon, for calling you Tari, you know what I meant!<br><br>Post edited by: Lidia, at: 2007/07/17 19:19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest briansmum Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 here in the UK you can buy crisps (chips) that are unsalted and the salt comes in a little blue packet in the bag and you put your own on, so i take a couple out for bri before adding the salt. i dont know if you can get them anywhere else, but it's something to look into, they're called "smiths" i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miltie Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 What about the salt added to food when you cook it. They eat off your plate too right? I mean some of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miltie Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 What about the salt added to food when you cook it. They eat off your plate too right? I mean some of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lidia Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 They actually need some salt, like we do, but just as we don't OD on salt and tend to avoid over-salted food, so should they. It's nothing to get worried about. A little bit of human food is fine, just avoid salty and fatty stuff.<br><br>Post edited by: Lidia, at: 2007/07/19 10:49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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