danmcq Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Well, it may never get published, but I am going to start on it. It is going to be written from Dayo's thought perspective. I have been reflecting a lot lately after reading many users experiences, comparing to mine and what happens when they must be willed or passed on to their next owners due to becoming disabled or death for example. We are both 56 and Dayo will probably live decades beyond us. It has been troubling me a lot lately, because I know he can never make do for himself, as our human children can. I want to write a book from Dayo's perspective covering from the time he was born to now and future as I write. When the time comes that we are close to passing on or become incapable of caring properly for him. Hopefully this will be a great manual for the new owners to know what Dayo expects, what he knows, how he acts and reacts and how they should respond and perform task, feeding, interacting etc. Dayo is truly a "Child" to us and we talk and interact with him just as a birthed child. He in turn, has became very fluent in speech and proper context to actually communicate on a level different than any other critter you could own and expects an acknowledgement, reply or action when he speaks. he truly is at the same mental level as a 3 year old child in all aspects. Every Grey's experience is different from birth up because every owner and household is different in how they interact with their Greys, teach their greys and of course every Grey has it's own differences as well. If it never gets published, there will at least be a very thick manuscript of his life up to our point of having to find a good home for him. I can not stand the thought of a new owner not understanding how Dayo has learned to communicate and interact with Humans by us. No one else would have a clue and may cause him to become self isolating, withdrawn and perhaps a pissed off attacker. I could not live with that. In a nutshell, I worry they would just treat him as another "pet". Which he is NOT!! Edited to add most important thing about Dayo: He is NEVER to be clipped and lose the little freedom and independence he has that makes him a member of the Avian class of living creatures. I will not will him or pass him on to anyone that would ever consider clipping as a "Must Do" for any reason. If there's a reason, they have "no right" to ever have the privilege of having Dayo as a part of "The Family". He MUST have all the freedom a family member does and interacted with at human level. Not as a "toy" they show off when they feel like it.<br><br>Post edited by: danmcq, at: 2010/02/18 15:06 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Dayo - My life in a Human world, as a Congo African Grey Parrot My name is Dayo. I wanted to share my life to this point. The reason for this, is my Human Parents both will pass on before I will. My future home will need to know my background to understand me and interact with me properly. My Mom and Dad spent years teaching, loving and caring for me. I am a sentient being, intelligent, talkative, comedian, demanding and most importantly fully flighted. I enjoy my freedom most of all. Now, on to my story. I am a Parrot species called “Congo African Grey†(CAG) that originates in the Congo Rain Forests area of Africa. We are known to have life spans up to 50 or 60 years in the wild. However, the average in the dangerous and tough life of the wild is around 30 years. It is thought the average is 35 to 40 years in captivity. However with a healthy diet of other than just seeds and nuts enhanced with Pellets, Vegetables, Fruit and plenty of exercising like flight and playing, we are expected to live close to our wild maximum life span in captivity. At some point in time of the distant past, my Parents were captured and shipped to the United States. A Parrot Breeder purchased them legally over 25 years ago. I do know this was made illegal by the U.S. Wild Bird Conservation Act of 1992. The Breeder placed my parents in a small 3 x 3 x 4 cage with a small nest box in it. They lived out the rest of their miserable lives (compared to the wild) in captivity. I do not claim that all Breeders provide this type of living condition, but most do. Also, there are many hundreds if not thousands of breeding pairs that were born in captivity and never knew what it was like to be in the wild; therefore being in the company of Humans and their environment is natural to them. Wild Grey at Tree Hole Breeders in Cage with Nestbox I was hatched on the 28th of April 2007. The first memories I have, is of feeling the warmth of my mother and father keeping me and the rest of my Clutch toasty warm and safe under them as they would sit and droop their wings down to keep the area enclosed and warm. They also fed us great warm food regurgitated made especially just for us. Then one day when we were about a week or two old, while my parents were out, I felt a strange warm “Something†pick me up and it also picked up the rest of my clutch!!! The unfortunate part is, our eyes were not yet open when we were taken from the nest, so we do not know what our parents looked like. I guess I and my clutch were lucky; some babies are taken from their parents before they even hatch. However, some Breeders leave the chicks with the parents until 3 weeks of age. We were then placed in a plastic container with material on the bottom and placed in a warm box with added humidity, it was called a Brooder. It was really a rather small place, but so is a nest of a wild African Grey Pair, which normally sets up home in the hole of a tree. I never felt the nice warm underbelly of my parents again and miss the gentle nuzzles, feeding and pampering by my parents. But, the things handling me and the clutch are gentle, but their hands are a little cold compared to the warm bodies of our parents. 1 week old Chicks Hey, there’s another clutch of Grey’s in another Brooder right next to us and about the same age!! How cool is that? They put something on one of my legs that crimped around it. I heard them call it a Leg Band that will identify me and who the breeder was. It feels rather strange and I don’t like it much. It was also strange being held like that and was actually rather scary. But, while we were all out of the brooder, but remained in the container, they fed us each some pretty good tasting formula and it was warm too! I could hear them talking in high and happy voices to me. They also held me for a while and gently stroked me. It was comforting and made me feel safe and secure. Both clutches in Brooder When we were getting fed, I kept having to push against the others to get mine too! I later learned I didn’t need to worry, the loving Breeders made sure we each got fed every time. They feed us 4 or 5 times over a 24 hour period. Of course, we’re only 3 weeks old and now have eyes open and can see these blurry huge humans feeding us. They are very gentle and talk to us in very exciting voices. But, we can’t stay out long, we have no feathers and it gets really cold after a while compared to our brooder. I am 6 weeks old now. I and the clutch are still getting fed 4 times in a 24 hours period. The Breeders let us out of the plastic box and place us on the floor to play , and we also run around and check out these strange looking items they call toys. There is some food items there too like different vegetables and fruit. We love the long time out of the brooder! We are changing and instead of bare skin, we have downy feathers and other full feathers growing. Everything is white and shades of gray. Even our eyes are black! I also have this little bright red line of dots (feathers) coming in across my butt!! What’s up with that? My Red Dotted Butt Some other Humans came over today I have never seen and they sat and played with us all for a few hours. I and one or two others checked them both out and I let them pick me up, once I had walked over to them. My clutch mates, except one, all just seemed to stay away from them and run around on the floor and explore some and eat the fruit and veggies, but I liked them for some reason. They are really nice people and are very gentle with me. I really liked chewing on a shoe lace or two and also on their shirts. They pointed something at me and also at my clutch that made a real bright flash several times while they were here. These Humans are huge towering like trees. I have to look straight up and focus my eyes really hard to see all the way up to their face and eyes. Just their feet are larger than me! When they reach out to get me, it looks like large tree branches bending out towards me. I wonder how big I am going to get and if that’s what my Parents actually looked like? Oh well, I’m too young to worry about this stuff. It’s play time! We’re 8 weeks old now and the same people keep coming back every week. I run over to them when I see them. I really look forward to these visits. We were all transferred to the big cage at 7 weeks. So both clutches totaling 7 Greys are sharing it. It’s interesting living in a big enclosure. We can climb all over the place and all the way to the top. It has a few perches at the bottom we can get on and sit. It also has some nice towels and blankets on the bottom. They feel soft when I fall. I am clumsy sometimes and just lose my grip. Here all we are at 8 Weeks out on blanket It’s interesting getting to know and socializing with the other clutch. Sometimes, we beak each other too hard! One of us had a blood feather bitten and the Breeder moved him to another enclosure for a while so he could heal. I guess we are still learning how to use our powerful beaks properly. He is ok now though and back with us. For the most part we each tend to stay close to our own clutch in the cage and sleep next to each other. When I see those people that come over and they walk in the Room. I always run to the front and climb up the cage door and peep and whistle at them. Some the other Grey’s would call too and want their attention, but I was always hanging on the front of the cage door so they would get me first. One or the other of these humans would pick up other Grey’s as well that wanted attention. The breeders also played with us everyday and we had lots of interaction. My Feathers are now becoming very full and those Red Dots on my butt have turned into pretty red growing tail feathers. I like them!! The people coming over I play with liked all my feathers they carried on over my red tail. 8 Weeks – Notice how the other clutch stays isolated sometimes There is also an 8 week old sun conure that is normally out with us running around too. He’s a quick little bugger that gets to stuff before us sometimes, but he’s a cute little guy. We put up with him, but chase him off if he gets in our way. There are also 5 Cherry headed conures about 6 weeks old in a cage we watch and peep at. Then there is a monster of a bird, it’s a Greenwing Macaw named Barney that sits on a stand and watches over us. His age is around 30. He sometimes rattles the walls with one of his squawks’ or loud Hello’s. Two of us were drawn to these people called mommy and daddy. The Dayo and Other Grey getting attention I like chewing on Dads shoes Me and Mom at 8 Weeks We are being raised by Humans, in a Human world and rely upon them for everything. Even though we have the instincts of an African Grey Parrot, we are naturally drawn to Humans and learning how to get along in the only world we know. The Breeders knew this was crucial for our placement, happiness and thriving with our future Human owners. They have been very careful to ensure we are learning all the basics like a Cage is our home, primary food area and place of safety, to step-up, know what a towel is and play with it. They also keep giving us different food items and toys with different textures and colors. But, as with all us African Grey’s, there are some things that we just look at from a distance for a while, before we even think about going near it. I like the Breeders and the way they love us and take care of us. But, something was different about these humans that kept coming over. I don’t know why, but I seemed drawn to them, especially the one now known as “Mommy†the other is called “Daddyâ€. He’s ok, I like him too, but not as much. I am getting more attached to them each time they visit. I’m going to fast forward to 12 weeks now. Since weeks 8 through 11 continued on as they were, except we are getting fed formula less often, eating pellets, mashes, vegetables, fruit etc., and we continued to grow very fast. I heard them call it abundance weaning. I don’t care what they call it, I call it Good! I am now flapping my wings a lot; due to some uncontrollable urge that I’ve had for the past week to hang on to something and just flap away! Boy do they create a lot of wind and I can feel my feet pulling against the bar or finger as I do so. I let go once and took off. Boy was that scary; I landed well very soon and walked around thinking about what just happen. The breeder seemed very happy and was talking to me in a very high and happy voice. All the others in the two clutches are doing the same. The Breeder said something about not needing a thing called a fan to keep them cool. They also turn all the ceiling fans off before any of us or other Parrots are let out. My Dad and Mom, always checks the metal thing around my leg when they come over and I walk up to them. I heard them say, yep its number 001. There’s another Grey from the other clutch starting to hang around them to and getting picked up. They check its band too and say, yep its number 006. This is starting to get me jealous, I always go back and forth between dad and Mom when 006 is with one of them. I usually try to get Mom to just pick me up and 006 can have Dad. While my Mom and Dad was over visiting. We were hanging out on the floor playing and a very small dog came running in and spooked us. We all quickly flew up to the sofa, chairs or other item about 3 or 4 feet off the floor. Then we saw it was just the little dog we are used to seeing him run around the house while in our cage and quickly returned to the floor to play. I guess it was just instinct to fly when we feel threatened by a quick unexpected movement. It felt pretty good to fly and my Mom and Dad carried on like I had done something amazing. One odd thing happened that alarm me while sitting on my Dad’s chest. He was sitting on the floor with his arms supporting his upper body. All of a sudden, the biggest Grey from the other clutch flew across the room and landed with his beak biting into my Dad’s hand making a hole and drawing blood. The Breeder asked my Dad if the Grey just attacked him. My Dad said yes, but didn’t know why. After that, my Dad always called that bird “the Grey from Hellâ€. This Grey would from then on, growl at the Breeder and my Dad even when they would just approach the cage to get us all out. I heard my dad say, that if the Grey’s attitude didn’t change, it would make a good breeder possibly. The Breeder laughed. I don’t know why! But, that larger Grey was always a loaner, hanging out in the back of the cage and the others from its clutch would sometimes huddle around it. The Breeder sent samples in from all of us today for DNA testing, to see what sex we are. My Mom and Dad have been talking about something called a “Nameâ€. They have been researching appropriate African Dialects to find just the right one for me. They are going to wait until the DNA test comes back. I wish that other Grey would just stay with the rest of its clutch, I want ALL the attention! When Mom and dad left today, the breeder had to hold me because I kept peeping and trying to fly after them. I miss them now every time they leave. The Breeder told my parents I keep looking and peeping for at least 10 minutes after their gone.<br><br>Post edited by: danmcq, at: 2010/02/18 13:11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 Dayo here - Continuing my story... It's labor-some typing with only 4 digits on each Talon. :-) Week 13 and we’re flying every chance we get when let out of the cage. It’s rather scary, not knowing what’s around that big opening or flapping to hard and seeing the top of the sky as we rapidly approach the 8 foot ceiling. Most times I will turn back to where I came from and land, then fly a circle again. It tried landing on places other than my cage and found some of them just fall over, like lamp stands, standing picture frames etc. For the most part, once I have flown a little, I like to be on the floor playing, eating new things, tearing up toys and having fun with the breeders and especially my mom and dad when they come over. They talk and laugh with the breeders a long time when they are here. They have become very good friends and enjoy each others company. I hear them talking about what I and the others have been doing each day and also the others Parrots here that are growing up. They have many cages they built outside with many types of Conures, Macaws and Greys. We sometimes play the other babies when they are out when we are and it changes the dynamics of what we do and how we play. Some of them are BIG and I try to go buddy up with them and get some preening. Some will and some won’t and run me off. So I go chase the ones smaller than me off, because they bug me. I wonder if that’s what the big macaws think about me. But, my mom and dad played with them, especially the macaws. I really got jealous when a blue and gold laid on my moms chest and then placed it’s head on her shoulder like a human child does. My mom liked it and cuddled it for a long time! Sometimes when there is a toy or a food item I like, I’ll go pick it up and all of a sudden others come around me and want it. I run away and they chase me and try to get it. Most the time I just run and turn until they stop trying to get it. Sometimes though, one of them will get it and then I chase after them. It’s fun, but I don’t like having something taken away from me and the others don’t either. Week 14 and I have continued to enjoy the flights we all get to take when out of that big box they call a cage. We chase each other and sometimes have some crashes. This flight thing is really exciting, but turning and landing on some things is kind of tricky. But, I am learning how to bank, slow down and what NOT to land on. I also learned I can make short hops to get to things quickly before the others. My mom and dad came over today with a small cage and took my outside and placed me in this thing they called a car. I saw and heard very strange things and when they took me out, we were at a different house and they let me out. There was only one other bird there they called Jake and he is a peach front conure. He is a small cute little guy and reminds me a little of the sun conure at the breeders. I saw a huge cage and my parents let me climb up in it and check out some of the new and scary toys I had never seen before. They also played with me on the floor with foot toys and even something they called a furbie. It surprised me when I touched it and it laughed!! But, then I enjoyed it so much a played with it for quite a while. I met two big dogs called Doberman pinschers. They look scary and my dad held them at a distance. We just checked each other out for a few then and then dad put them in another room. I could hear them barking to be let out. I stayed at this new house for 4 hours and explored, played with mom and dad, slept a little, ate a little and then they put me back in the carrier and took me back to the breeders. I enjoyed it so much. I did not want mom and dad to leave without me. I saw something on moms face that looked like a small drop of water as they left. She and dad both seemed sad to leave me at the breeders too. I can’t wait until they come back again.<br><br>Post edited by: danmcq, at: 2010/02/18 13:21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dayo again - I'm doing the best I can with my limited PC time....Dad is a PC hog!!! May your day of foraging and flying the sky's be fruitful. :-) Week 15 - The breeders did something to my wings and I can’t fly all of a sudden! I can only flap down to the floor at about a 45 degree angle. When mom and dad came today and saw that my wings were clipped, I heard them talking to the breeders about having already stated they did not wanting that done. The breeders said it was their policy not to let any bird go unclipped and would not let mom and dad have me, if they had not done it. Mom and dad seemed sad and didn’t talk to the breeders as much as normal today. They brought the carrier though! I couldn’t get in it fast enough. Then we went in that strange vehicle and next thing I know, I am at their house again. I couldn’t wait to get out and was clawing at the door and contact calling them to make it so in a hurry! This time I went straight to the blanket on the floor which had lots of cool foot toys, some fruit, veggies and that furbie I love so much. They have to carry me around now if we need to go someplace, rather than me flying after them like last time. I am a little scared of moving very fast now when I am climbing up or down. I also just lean in the direction of where I want to go and they place me there so I can investigate whatever it is I am curious about. Oh, exiting news, the DNA test came back and I am a Boy! I could have told them that… Mom and Dad were very excited and started calling me “Dayo†right away. They said it means in an African dialect “Joy has arrivedâ€. It sure did for all of us. We are all so happy when together! After playing for a long time, I fell asleep for a while when I crawled under moms arm and laid down on the floor. That was nice, we all just laid there and napped. At least I think they did too. Then we played some more and it was time to go back to the breeders. I don’t like going back there and don’t understand why I can’t just stay with mom and dad. They have that big cage and we have so much fun. So we got to the breeders and said our good buys. I look for them everyday when I wake up. Every time the doorbell rings and people come in, I look to see if it’s them and it’s not. Week 16 - Things are hopping here at the breeders. It’s different today. When mom and dad got here I was hanging on the cage door contact calling like always and they said hi and then just ignored me. Instead they were in the kitchen with the breeder doing something in a huge pot and talking about it. They were in there for over an hour talking and doing things. Finally they came and got me out of the cage. But, they also got another Grey out too that always hung out with mom and dad. They placed me and her both in the carrier! Now this is weird. But, they left me and her in there and they started carrying out bags of stuff from the kitchen where they had been doing all that stuff. Then they talked with the breeders for a long time again and we left. We got to the house and brought all the stuff in they had brought over from the breeders. They put it up in a big white box that was very cold. It looked like little bags of food we had at the breeders. The Dobermans were coming up and looking then smelling us in the carrier. They put the Dobermans in another room, then they let me and her out of the carrier. I noticed right away my cage was arranged differently. The perches were low and some nice soft towels were in the bottom. There were also a lot more toys hanging in there than last time. I checked it all out. The towels were soft and the toys were fun for the most part. There are couple of that I am not sure if they are evil monsters or not yet. So I am staying away from those! The other Grey was checking things out and kept running after mom and dad. Of course I did too! One time dad turned around to walk and she was right at his foot and he kicked her a little. Not too hard though. He got real sad and picked her up and cuddled her. I guess from way up there it is hard to see us standing right at their feet and they can’t hear our foot steps. Me and her played with mom and dad. We played with our toys, climbed around the cage inside, outside and also each played with each other. We always liked each other and also mom and dad. Mom and dad started calling her Leah. We all went in a big room with a huge thing that showed pictures and made lots of sounds for a few hours. Me and Leah hung out on the top of the couch, preened and beaked each other. Then it started becoming dinner time and they made us formula nice and warm like we had at this time of day. I ate a lot, but Leah didn’t eat very much. She also had not been eating much of the food they had out for us all day. This is weird, it’s getting dark and we are still here. Usually they take me back to the breeders before now. We spent a few more hours playing and hanging out with mom and dad. Then they picked us up, very gently held and snuggled us and put us both in the big cage and covered us. They said good night to us and then it got real dark and quite. We are spending the night!! I have always wanted to stay here and now my wish has come true. We slept real good and didn’t wake up once during the night. Before it was light, I heard dad up and doing something in the kitchen. That big box came on and started making noise and I smelled a strong odor and I could see through the cover a blurry image of him lifting a cup to his mouth. Leah woke up too and pretty soon we couldn’t stand it any longer. We started our little baby cheeps and panting. Dad came over and uncovered us. Then he talked to us a while in a gentle voice, rubbed our beaks and gave us some scratches, then went back to watching that noisy box. After a while mom came in and we excitedly cheeped at her too and she came over and got us both out of the cage. We were both so excited we started climbing all over her. Dad came over and got Leah then we all had some snuggle time. I stayed with mom and did not like Leah getting her attention. Then dad got a thing out he put each of us on, one at a time. I heard him call it a digital scale. It had a nice perch for us to stand on. Then he wrote something down on paper. He seemed anxious after he weighed Leah and him and mom talked about it. They fixed us a lot of good stuff to eat like veggies, some fruit and some of that wonderful 15 bean, oats, barley, nuts, seed and flax seed mixture they brought from the breeders all nice and warm. I ate a lot, Leah did not. They called the breeder and talked to them for a while. I heard dad saying something about Leah’s weight going down rapidly and her not wanting to eat. Then they put her in the carrier and left. When they came back, Leah was not with them. I never saw her again. I did hear them say she was fine, just not completely weaned yet. They decided that I was going to be enough to handle and declined to bring her back a week later. Oh well, I am now the only one who will get attention from mom and dad. Except for Jake the conure, who doesn’t like sitting on them and hanging out like I do. He just likes to get treats from them and hang out on his cage or perch. He does keep trying to come and get close to me, but I don’t like that and chase him away. Now the rest of my life’s story with MY FLOCK begins……<br><br>Post edited by: danmcq, at: 2010/02/18 13:31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted January 2, 2010 Author Share Posted January 2, 2010 Ok, I guess I owe you all an explanation for why I have not written further here. Some of you have asked "When" a new chapter will be written in some of my newest posts with videos. I have had to stop and really think about this. I have been reflecting on when it will be time that Dayo will need to go to a new home I hope in decades, not years. I must say Dayo and our experience is not the "Norm". I have not brought him up through the past 2 and a half years to be "Housed" with a new flock. I say this, because reflecting on how he was brought up, with the generous liberties, routines, expectations, freedom and flightedness. That I MAY have made it nearly impossible for him to find a home that would give him the same freedoms, attention, going to bed (cage) rituals, morning wake up rituals, playing games one on one, giving foods like we do, many rooms arranged to include the "birds" with T-Stands, hanging playing gyms etc. so they can have a space of their own when sitting with us in various rooms. After reading several books over the years on "Training" a parrot or other bird when young to be a "Good Birdy" in a humans home. I have failed. We live together like a flock of equals. Not a home where every thing revolves around our being comfortable and caging the birds when we tire of them. Like 95 percent of homes treat parrots and other birds. The people on this forum are a unique group of people that take caring for all critters as a serious relationship and pretty much live "With" their critters. Not the norm of people just having "Pets" they want to interact with briefly then put them out or in a cage. I have broken MANY rules of making Dayo a "Pet" that could reside in a higher percentage of "Human" homes. My only hope is, when the time comes, someone on this forum will take him or we will find a Parrot lover that will give him all and maybe even more freedom and love than we have. I worry about him just as if he were one of my own Son's. Which in reality, I do view him as such. At this point, I would not trust either of my Sons to treat Dayo as we do. They would not like things possibly getting pooped on, chewed on etc. and cage time would become a norm. This is even though they love him dearly and interact with him when they and family come and visit. Visiting someone is completely different than having them live with you twenty-four - seven. I will continue to write this journal - book, but I need to really get down how I am going to thread in comments about this upbringing NOT being the norm.<br><br>Post edited by: danmcq, at: 2010/01/02 01:04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JillyBeanz Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I couldn't agree with you more. You are quite correct that members of this forum embrace their parrots - they're not pets - they are family members through and through. An example, in the last five minutes, is that my husband has gone food shopping - he's asked what I want and firstly I've listed the mixed veg, the fruit, the bean mix etc that Harvey eats. We all have the inevitable task of leaving our babies - and it is a very difficult decision. I would have said that the children would take him, but like you, I don't think that this would be acceptable to them. I look forward to the next installment ~ it's such an enjoyable read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Dan, I too have brought my 3 birds up as you have Dayo. My oldest son came over my house just the other day, (he hasn't been in my new house since I moved 2 years ago for reasons I won't go into here). His exact words were..."you really are the crazy bird lady!" He couldn't believe how every room had a tree or play stand in it, or things hanging from the ceilings for my birds. 3 potty baskets on my counter. Baskets of toys everywhere, plus 3 large cages! My birds are specified in my will as to who gets who. Having younger children that are brought up with my birds, I like to think that they know nothing different about how to keep parrots healthy and happy. They feel obligated to let them out of their cages as soon as they get home. They don't mind the potty, the birds eating off their plates, chewing homework etc.,...it's a way of life for them. I believe that my birds will continue to live in the lifestyle that they are used to, well, that's my hope anyways...:dry: If ever I thought my children wouldn't continue to love my birds the way they are accustomed to within reason, I would be offering them to some members here. Dan, you are to be commended for the parent and family that you have shown us and Dayo. He is one of the luckiest greys out there. You will do right by him as best you can. I wish I was much younger than you, I would take him and give him the life he is used to. God Bless you and Kim for giving Dayo the best life possible. Who ever he ends up with, he will flourish as his roots as a loving bird have been established thanks to you and Kim. You are not making a mistake in treating him as family as opposed to a pet. Trust me on that. The right person will come into your life one day that will love him as he is loved now. When that day comes, you and Kim will know it in your hearts. :kiss: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearllyn Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I do enjoy this thread - I've caught up a lot today! I know I should think about Alfies future without us but it's just to depressing at the moment. I feel the same way about the way we have raised Alfie not being the same as most people could manage - we are home a lot and when we are, she is out with us. Finding someone to take over when we are not here just seems a daunting task! (you know how no-one can look after your bird as well as you can!!) There is a bloke who lives in the town who has had a grey for around 15 years I think, and he was interested in Alf when we got her. In conversation I discovered he is a heavy smoker and his bird is exposed to that, he is a heavy drinker and the bird shares that, and owing to the fact that the bird is afraid of toys (!!!!!!!!) she lives in a bare cage. Now I realise this isn't every bird owner and that this is the opposite extreme of how we look after Alf, but finding acceptable middle ground sure does seem like a task and a half, and if David and I were to dissapear tomorrow, there is no-one I know at the minute who I would trust with the job. Hopefully as Talon says, when we find the right person, we'll know it. (I'll sign them up instantly!!) Great posts Dan - keep 'em coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 Dayo here - Ok, Dad got off his soap box, so I can finally continue... :-) Now the rest of my life’s story begins as a member of MY FLOCK at 16 weeks of age…… Well this is great! Dad is home all the time, but Mom goes to work. I miss Mom during that time. I heard Dad say he had taken two weeks of vacation to ensure “Dayo†bonded with him. He said I was his idea and was his bird, Ha! I love mom and like dad. He is fun to play with and kick around the house, but mom is the one I love to cuddle with and get scratches. We have these big creatures here called Dobermans. . They are always walking up and sniffing my cage and sometimes get real close to where I am. I almost beaked one of them but Dad said NO and pulled them away from the cage and made them sit. I feel sorry for them, so I throw food out of my cage and watch them eat it. Dad puts the Dobermans somewhere and gets me out of the cage. We play on the floor together with lots of cool stuff. I have these little foot toys and even a talking furry thing the call a Furbie! I learned he talks and if I touch him in certain places, he makes sounds and moves. It was kind of scary at first, but I decided I could knock him over and climb all over him….BIG FUN!!! Then after a while they took Furbie away because I was trying to chew parts of him off, shoot! When I get tired, I walk over and get under dads arm right next to him and lay down to take a nap. I think dad takes one too, but I’m not certain because I’m asleep. He is always a wake and looking at me when I wake up. Then after a while he puts me back in the cage and lets the dogs out and plays with them. I can chirp all I want and he won’t let me out! Doesn’t he know who I am? King of the Jungle and Ruler of the Air! Well I tell you, things are going to change around here. I like to ride around on dad’s shoulder wherever he goes. I sit and watch on the this big box with pictures he calls a computer. I think I saw him writing something and putting pictures of me on it. He put it in a place called greyforums. Sometimes when I get bored I climb down his arm and walk around on the desktop where the computer is. There is lots of neat stuff on it I like to try and play with. Some of my toys are there too, but I want to get a thing called the mouse, keyboard or ink pen. I have been fast enough to pop a key or two off that keyboard. But, then dad took it away and snapped it back on to it. I look forward to when mom comes home after work and call for her the minute I hear the garage door open and the car pull in. The dogs do to because they are running all around by the door and wagging their tails. Mom always says hi and pets them first. Then she comes over to me and says hi and talks sweet to me. After she gets ready, she always makes me some hot formula or what they call baby food that is carrots, yams, green beans or other tasty stuff. She feeds it to me from a spoon. I get kind of messy when I bob my head uncontrollably sometimes and mom wipes my beak. We always have a nice evening sitting together, cuddling with mom, getting scratches and sometimes I fall asleep for a while. Then they start turning off things and lights. Then Mom carries me to my cage and dad follows as she puts me in. They both talk sweet to me and tell me good night and Jake too. Then they cover our cages and the whole room gets dark. But, there is a little light they always leave on that I can see a little through my cage cover. I can’t wait until I hear them in the morning getting coffee before they uncover my cage. I wish I could go where they go instead of my cage. But, they say it is for my own safety. One day, just a few days after I came home. Dad put me in my carrier that he takes me places in. We were in the car for a while. Then when we got out we went into a place I had never been. It had people and other critters of all types in it. He talked to a person then we went and sat down for a while. Some people were coming over and talking to dad and looking at me. I don’t know who they were. But, they seemed nice enough and smiled, so I guess they were ok. Then dad picked me up and we went in a small room. In a few minutes another person came in with a white coat on. She and dad talked for a minute. Then she opened the door of my carrier! Well she seemed nice enough and I stepped up onto her hand when she offered a step up talking sweetly to me. She looked me all over, in my nares, under my wings and at my behind. Then she put me on a scale kind of different from what I am used to, but I was ok with it. Then she scooped up some of my poop from the carrier! Now how weird is this person? She gave me a good treat, gave me back to dad and left the room. She came back after a while and seemed happy and so did dad.I think I kind of like this lady. Maybe I will see her again. Then we left and went back home. Boy was I happy to see my house again.Dad let me out of the carrier and we hung out, ate some food and played with toys until mom got home. This same scenario went on for almost two weeks. Then one day a bunch of people came over and children too. I like people and climbed on some that offered, even the bigger children. The little humans are very fast and jump around. I am not too sure, but I think they are a little scary. I don’t trust them. They all seemed like a happy bunch and were laughing and talking to me and others. It was fun having all these people here and excitement was in the air. We ate good food and yes I got a little bit too. Then they all left and it was just our normal flock here. Then on the next Monday, dad left saying goodbye to me and that he loved me. I don’t know what happened, but I didn’t see him for 4 days and nights. Then he came home and boy was I happy to see him! I was happy having mom all to myself, but dad is one of the flock and it was good to see him back and know he was ok. This keeps happening every week and I am getting used to his schedule and my having to stay in my cage all day with no one is home until mom gets home after work. They do have lots of toys for me to play with in my cage, that I like to chew the wood off of and some foraging ones that have nuts like almonds in them that I have to work at to get one. So it keeps my occupied when I am home without them. This thing they call a phone rings every night when dad is gone. Mom talks and then I hear my dads voice coming out of this thing. I can’t see him but I want him so bad. I try beaking the phone, cheeping and panting as I hear him say hi and how he loves me. Then after a while he tells me and mom goodbye. I miss him…<br><br>Post edited by: danmcq, at: 2010/02/18 13:47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Dayo here... I have edited out many high-fives here to make this easier for those interested to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistyparrot Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Wow Dan.You have so eloquently expressed my own thoughts and fears with regards to Misty's future after I am no longer able to live with him* . I also have the worry that many prospective parrot keepers have no real concept of what these amazing beings are all about. The thought that he might be confined to a cage, be clipped and lose his freedom to fly troubles me. Your idea of a "Dayo Manual" is brilliant. I shall do the same. Of course I will call it a "Misty Manual" More karma to you. I hope all your karma gets you and Dayo a special place in Parrot Heaven when the time comes:) *( On a recent visit to an avian vet to have Misty chipped he told me that he thought Misty might be female! so I am now meditating on the prospect of plucking a couple of chest feathers for DNA testing :ohmy: ) Steve n Misty<br><br>Post edited by: Mistyparrot, at: 2010/02/18 16:29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzzique Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Dan I totally know how you feel. Alex and Martini are part of the family. They come with us to all parts of the house and are both flighted. As long as at least one person is home they are out of thier cages. They eat with us everything. We had to teach Martini how to fly after we got him. I am having major aggresion issues with Martini (just towrds me) right now and I refuse to clip his wings. There has to be a way to deal with his aggresion without clipping him. As mean as he is to me I will not give him up. Fortunitly for me all my kids love birds and I know that they would continue to care for Alex and Martini in the way they are use to if anything happend to me. I love your hand book! What a wonderful idea. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Don't ever stop my friend....Love you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
she Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Dan I truly love this Topic.I have followed it from the beginning and although I may not be hear as much for various reasons I never fail to check in and see any updated write ups .Parrots are a member of the family and Dayo has certainly become an important member of your family.Hat off to you Dan,lots of love sheila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 7 months and time fly’s – My eyes are starting to turn a little lighter now, to almost a silver-charcoal color. It’s starting to get colder, the days shorter and I am really starting to get itchy and keep finding all these loose down feathers. Boy, looking down through my cage grate, I see almost a semblance of snow covered ground. When dad cleans and changes the paper, he always mists it with water before he pulls it out. It keeps all those feathers from floating away when he pulls it out. Mom and dad were staring to get worried I was starting to pluck or something at first. But, they talked to the breeders and also posted a question on the grey forum and a very knowledgeable man named Dave with decades of experience breeding Grey’s, working in a rescue with many types of parrots and helping problematic Grey’s he rescued himself answered. He told them what was going on and that the first molt is always the largest. I am just getting rid of all my baby feathers. Dave also advised to mist me with 100 percent Aloe Juice until drenched at least 2 or 3 times a week, to keep my skin nice and supple and less itchy.So they take me in the shower and try to convince me it’s fun. I don’t like the water hitting me so I just sit up on the bar and watch. They keep taking me in there, showering and then when I don’t get wet. They just get out, dry off, place me in the bottom and mist me with a spray bottle until I am completely soaked with Aloe juice. I hate it that I can’t escape! Yep, I am growing up (I think) and starting to think maybe I should start seeing if I can have my way sometimes. Lets what happens if I um, let me think about this…not step up! Here comes the request and hand, ok backing up a little, showing a little body language that it's not what I want to do. Drat’s, it didn’t work. They just kept coming forward and I stepped up. Then they took me and put me in the cage so they could leave. Not really a positive experience. I am going to have to rethink this strategy!I also don’t want any more of that baby formula or baby food. I just turn my head or push it away. So they quit offering it and now give me more of the bean mixes, birdie bread, lots of cut up veggies cooked and uncooked. I like them both ways. They also sneak some stuff in they call Red Palm Oil. It’s good for me, but if they get too much on it, I can taste it and will not eat it. I think they are still slipping it to me and must investigate this further. I am becoming very in-tune with the function of this flock. Mom and Dad are the “Big Birds” and everyone else seems to do what they ask. In return, they give us a good home, plenty of food and lots of good times, well most the time except for those darn showers! I have to watch out for the Dobermans. They get very excited when I flap by and sometimes jump up and snap at me. Dad always tells them “DOWN” and then to go on and to leave me alone. I must learn that sentence once I can figure out how to make those sounds. They seem to obey every time Dad or Mom say’s it. I tried to reach down and bite Bentleys ear one evening and Dad quickly pulled me up and was very upset. I don’t know why, I was just going to give him a little friendly beaking. I am getting pretty good and flapping as hard as I can. I can usually make it from the kitchen all the way into the living room about 20 feet away and land on the couch. Sometimes I don’t quite make it though and need to find a safe place to land. Still figuring all the objects out that may be a good crash landing spot when I have engine trouble or run out of gas. Sometimes I land on Mom or Dad if their in the path and grab real hard with my beak to steady myself and find a good footing. They don’t seem to like that very much and wiggle a little. I’m glad they were there at those times though. I must think about all this some more and make some important decisions about how I want to fit into this flock and let my wishes be known and claim what my area and things are. I’ll update you in a while once I have the plan….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovethatgrey Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 That was an awesome read Dan!! Looking very forward to the next chapter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseaB Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 This is great!! I really had to smile- sounds SO familiar!!! You really have a good sense of what may be going on in their complex little birdy brains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessdecutie18 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 it's nice to hear all this from Dayo's perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JillyBeanz Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I've missed this! Each time a new chapter is posted, I return to the start!!! I really enjoy this Dayo - make sure that human slave (the one with the birdy brain according to chelseaB) keeps this Journal going! Thanks Dan - I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Dan, this really needs to be a "Sticky"..... Please make it happen...Jayd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Dan, this really needs to be a "Sticky"..... Please make it happen..Salsa [if I need to, I'll have my whole flock make the same post!!!! Come here Spock, your turn..] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Dan, this really needs to be a "Sticky"..... Please make it happen..Spock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 Jesus, Parrots are so damn demanding!! OK, I was getting tired of having to find this thread to update it anyway, I guess I should. :-) Thanks for the recommendation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Spock here... Only Logical... Dan, Dayo Live Long and Prosper Spock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearllyn Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Lol - Dayo sure did know some big words at 7 months! Good reading though, more please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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