paullywalnuts Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Hey everyone. My name is Joe. I have been reading up, researching on greys. I have had parakeets in the past, but i guess you cant compare parakeets with parrots. I have been looking for a place to adopt/buy a grey, but there isnt a place that is reputable that i can find. I have found some sellers on recycler.com but it all seems like a scam. I will not lie, money is something i do take into consideration. I have seen many prices ranges for these greys. ive seen as low as $300 to as high as $1500. I am not able to afford anything above $600-$700 as of now. And there is always the worry of scammers online, and getting a hold of a sick birds. So i come to these forums in hopes of finding a healthy companion, and sharing raising him/her with the forums. So if anyone can point me in the right direction to find a breeder/seller (preferably in socal) i will appreciate it. THANKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tari Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 The fact that you dont have enough money to purchase a bird right now really concerns me. Yes you can get a second hand bird fair cheep but usally they well need new toys new cage and a vet visit so that anough or 500 plus after you spend money one the bird. Even if you buy a healthy baby there is the cage, toys and still the well bird check up and that well run you 300 or more. Then even if you find the bird toys and cage you have to spend around 50 a month (thats if you make a lot of your own toys) on food and toys. And a couple hundred a year on vet bills. So all that being said you cant go wrong with a grey if you can afford one. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paullywalnuts Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 Thanks for the response. What i meant by afford, is the price i considered to pay for the bird. I have taken consideration to food/vet bills/toys/cage/playing area. I have just set a price in case for example, i need medication if the bird is sick, for DNA test etc. I can pay $1500 for the bird. But lets say i pay $1500, and discover i need to pay $100 a week for medication or what not, that will be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Hi Paullywalnuts, Welcome to the Forum! You sound a lot like me during my search for a Grey, excluding the money cap. Rescues didn't work for me, after I realized I lacked the experience and knowledge it would take to rehab one of these intelligent guy's. I live in the San Joaquin Valley here about 180 miles north of you if you live in LA. My Breeder asks 950 for her CAG's. She presntly has six (one of which is mine) that will be weaned and fledged by the end of August or first of September. This may be a little further away than you wished. But, just thought I would let you know. From googling for CAG breeders down south, it looks like there are several. Then you could visit your CAG while it's at the Breeders. :laugh: Only you know your situation well enough right now to make the right decision for You. But, we can sure give you lots of advise and ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeasarsDad Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 paullywalnuts wrote: Hey everyone. My name is Joe. I have been reading up, researching on greys. I have had parakeets in the past, but i guess you cant compare parakeets with parrots. Hi Joe.. Thanks for joining our family.. You would be surprised just how similar your parakeets are to Grey's. Let me give you some similarities. Your parakeets need lots of love.. So does the Grey.. Your parakeets needed out of cage time.. So does the Grey... Your parakeets need lots of love and attention.. So does the Grey.. :P :P I could continue but I think you get the idea.. :) Anyway, Tari makes a good point about affordability of Grey's. It costs way more to raise one and give it the love it needs then it costs to buy one... You will forever be buying toys toys and more toys.. Beside that you have well bird Vet visits, cage accessories, play stands, play trees, and on and on..... You are starting in the right place by posting here.. I am sure you are gonna get lots of opinions... Sit back and enjoy... See ya soon CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest briansmum Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 they do cost a small fortune, but i think it it more initial outlay, initial toys/cage/perches/vets, once that is all done it's not too bad till it needs doing again if you get me. you dont have to spend a ton on toys. im trying to stop buying everything cos brian doesnt play with them anyway ggrrr lol. although having said that i think i've spent more on him since i got him than he cost. and pet insurance is a must i think. so if it is a grey you have your heart set on, i would wait and save a while longer rather than buying one in your budget, they aren't a budget kind of bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Definately not a budget bird :laugh: but one you will enjoy for a long time. Do your reading and research and if you decide a grey is for you then we will be here to help you any way we can. And welcome to the forum and our family, Joe, we look forward to your decision and keep us informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hveusnthbrige Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 It took me 4 months to find my breeder. I just kept researching and emailing over and over. It was a lot of work but I knew the amount of work would pay off. 4 months for likely 50 years... it's a fair trade. Mirek cost me $1,700 CND$ out the door and all the junk to go with him cost about $1,000. And I still dont even have him home yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 I think you made a very good trade, and that day is coming when you can bring him home, I know all too well that it seems to take forever. Hang in there, it is almost over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paullywalnuts Posted July 5, 2007 Author Share Posted July 5, 2007 Is there breeders in socal that can guarantee the life of a grey for around 1yr? Ive heard too many stories of birds with diseases and what not dying after a few weeks. Like I said, I am willing to spend, but i need more of a guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 I doubt it. The risk would be too great to the Breeder. Most will go 3 days to 30 Days at most. Unfortunately, they have no control over how you feed and take care of your new Baby. If you do not ensure a proper diet, water living environment, Vet check up etc. The CAG could die due to it. Here is just one example of the wording from "A" Breeder: "All babies are guaranteed against any pre-existing conditions; such as bacterial disorders, viruses or deformities. This guarantee is valid for 30 days after birds have been received. Any diagnosis of any pre-existing conditions must be made by a licensed avian veterinarian. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Hi Paullywalnuts, welcome to the forum. I'm happy you joined Is adopting a grey not something you can consider? I assume that taking a bird from a rescue center wouldn't cost as much as buying one from a breeder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miltie Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Hello Joe welcome to the family.... Once you get the grey you go straight to the vet for a wellness check up And reputable breeders should work with you if something is wrong right away ... And I do have to mention the name Paully Walnuts lol you like the Sopranos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Yes a vet visit is in order to make sure all is ok and if not find out what to do about it if anything. I think I will call you Joe, takes too long to type PaullyWalnuts.{Feel-good-000200A2} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Hi Joe, and welcome to this family. Looking forward to the day you find your grey. Keep us posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paullywalnuts Posted July 5, 2007 Author Share Posted July 5, 2007 Has anyone here successfully bought a bird from a breeder who shipped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Hi PW, There are a few Cag Babies for sale in Southern California. They are only asking 500, which is a steal if they have them in a good environment and are taking really good care of them. Here is one link I found just doing a google: http://www.pennysaverusa.com/info/showinfo.aspx?id=e000641452 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paullywalnuts Posted July 5, 2007 Author Share Posted July 5, 2007 I have emailed that person, seems to be a scam. The lady is in Cameroon(by Morocco). Its funny because she has her number listed as 213 area code which is Downtown La. Anyone else dealt with a breeder that ships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Talon has, pm her and find where she got hers and more details, she will be glad to help you, I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeasarsDad Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Talon did get a really good bird too.. i have seen photos of "talon the bird" and she looks very well adjusted.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imran Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 noooooooooooooooooo... dont buy a bird from cameroon mass scammers there.. i was suppose to get a bird from there.. but one thing if he/she asks u too pay through western money transfer... dont think abt it ur money will go waste.. i luckily got saved coz my brother is into cargo so i know the procedure no cargo company will ask you to transfer moeny to a personal name through western union.. which the cameroon lady asked me to do making a fake airline company website it seemed so real just tryin to warn u be very careful abt cameroon.. coz i just saved myself from getting scammed.. hope this helps u.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcq Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 That is strange since the area code is LA. Seems that scammers are everywhere. :ohmy: Anyway, my breeder ships , but the price is 950. She 5 CAG Babies left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Hi Joe, I did buy Talon off the internet, but they're are many scams of people that sent money, and never received their bird. So, be careful. The local numbers sometimes are from Cameroon or other places like that. I had that experience. Also, be leery of "cheap" prices. You can not get a bird shipped into the United States legally, so keep it as local as possible. We had Talon shipped from Fl to MA, in the winter. Temp. is important when shipping a bird. I didn't know until the day of, whether it would be warm enough to ship her. But she did well, even though she was quite young. So keep researching, and thoroughly question the person you are considering buying from. Good luck, and keep us posted! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Your best bet is to try to find a local breeder so you won't have to ship it, things can go wrong, Talon was lucky to get hers okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imran Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 yea go in for local breeder.. see the bird with ur eyes and u ll feel he/she is for u.. rather then taking a risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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