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Nancy - if you can get your order over $35, the harness is $28 on Ebay directly from the maker. Cheapest I've ever seen was $25 drop shipped from my breeder who sold me one a little above her cost.

He knows what the harness is obviously but you might have better luck re-exposing it to him before trying to put it on again. I do love taking my birdy outside with me, not so sure she likes it that much. She gets stressed. My Greycie will also do the flying to my hand thing. I have my laptop sitting beside my chair in the living room. She will literally sit on the arm of my chair and work her way into position where I have to go over the top of her if Im' going to use the laptop. She even gets onto the top of the screen and will hang down into the viewing area as if I have nothing better to do but pay her some attention. She's cute when she does that but I have to keep myself in check because she does it almost immediately if she sees me using the laptop.

She sounds like a sweety.

Possible you can put some plastic toys inside the shelf to let him play with? I'll bet he starts tossing the toys - they love hearing stuff crashing to the floor. I'm not sure males go through the nesting routine, I'm betting he's just looking to get into stuff.

My Greycie doesn't listen and also doesn't like the harness or being outside much (except in her play cage). She loves hanging out in the kitchen with the cooks! That's a cute pic!

I don't know how to get them back into 'training' mode but if you have problem areas that you don't want the Grey, we use little scary looking stuffed animals: frogs, trolls, etc. Greycie hates those and will not go near anywhere we place one. We use them on fans and where my wife has her decorative candles that Greycie likes to destroy. Otherwise, she's free to fly whereever she wants and that's generally sitting on me or my laptop screen next to me. They do want to be close and I imagine if you lay off the training at times and just allow him/her to be a birdy, they'll end up wanting to be wherever you are. Lots of love and attention is the key around here.

Fortunately I'm immune to macaws and toos. We saw some macaws at Kookaburra this last weekend and one started that macaw scream. I looked at my wife and assured her not to worry, I could never get used to that.

Do you have a link? I never thought to look on Amazon. Also maybe shipping from you to me isn't that bad - I priced something off of twpinc.com and it came out to ~$60 for two rolls of 6ft 16 gauge 1x1. I was scared shipping was going to cost more than the wire.

Thx Murfchck! Preferably I'd like 6' as thats the size of the structure. I'll call and see if they can get that and see what Muse comes up with.

I see a posting in the Grey group on a missing Grey in Jersey. Seeing lots of alerts now that spring is here. Makes me rethink the clip versus no-clip debate. I hate seeing these...I get a terrible ache just worrying about them.

Knowing what I know of hatching chicken eggs, you also need a humidity component. In the beginning it's around 50% and rising within the last week as the chick gets ready to dig out. I always used a hygrometer inside an incubator to measure temp and humidity. My hens still get better hatch rates than I ever could.

Looking for a local source (North Texas) for GAW wire. I've been sitting on my talons too long on this and Greycie and her momma are conspiring to put pressure on me to get the aviary done! If you know of a source - would appreciate it. Putting my feelers out in several internets locations...

We got there at 10:30. We started on the northeast corner of the expo and zig-zagged our way through. So it was probably a good 1-1.5 hours before we got to that corner with her booth. She had four of the double half-moon perches and several of the single half-moon as well as two of the 'standard' hanging perches. She told us that's the last of them which I didn't buy her story for some reason - she was too much into sales person mode and I could smell it. Apparently she brought more out after you wiped her out. She had several fleece perches when we came by so we had a lot to pick from. We may have bought some of your inventory too. My wife was asking that lady if she had a couple of particular items and the lady lifted the cover on the table and pulled some stuff out and said 'she'll never know I sold a couple of her...'. One was a little green metal hanging bell that you can see laying on the couch in the first pic. Don't recall what the other item was, something small and insignificant.

For some reason those wood perches seemed familiar. Now I remember the photo of them you posted. I can't believe how heavy and solid they are and so cheap. No doubt Tree Top or Kookaburra would have been asking somewhere between 100-200 for those if not more. Busybeaks is the one vendor I was referring to when I mentioned 'full retail'. They had one toy there with a manzanita branch with leather dangles and a tube bell at the bottom that I know my bird would love. I went back and forth because those guys weren't giving any deals. They were the only ones that went ahead and tacked on the tax too. Will avoid them in the future now that we know. If I want to pay full retail and taxes, I'll go to Kookaburra. The atom you mentioned, we actually didn't get that at the fair. Greycie was sitting on it because it's familiar. She's perfectly willing to let Toby test the waters before trying the new stuff. The vendor that did have the atom I was interested in had it marked '16' but then he changed his price. They were kind of flakey so we just bought little parts and pieces which they had tons of. If we go again I'll PM you first, that way we can meet up and my wife can keep you busy while I buy all the stuff out from under you :)

We're first timers at one of these expos. This one was located 1.5 hours away, a little far but what the hell. Some vendors had really good prices, others were full retail - we stayed away from those with the exception of one. Lots of sad looking birds, I hated to see that. You can tell some of these idiots consider these birds mere livestock. We were after toys and food so --- The total haul. The two manzanita perches are huge and heavy - built for macaws. They were $24 and $35. Retail on those, I wouldnt even look twice. Two on the right are a soak and a cook mix. I've always wanted to try but these are outrageously expensive in our local store. They were literally 1/3 the cost at the expo: I didn't want to buy this but my wife insisted and Toby went ape* over it. Obviously he's into soft and fluffy: Some of the stuff hung. Greycie of course is a big chicken. 10ft tall and bullet proof Toby can't get enough of his fluffy perch toy:

He's coming from Almost Angels Aviary in Houston. We were slightly disappointed this week when we found out the sex but I'm sure that will disappear the second we meet him. Here's a pic of him just after a feeding with his two clutch buddies that he's being raised with: I had a list of girl names all lined up and ready to go and now I have to ditch it. Need some boy names I guess. I actually looked up 'Lotus' in from seeing your forum handle thinking it might work. The meaning is kind of girly though. Here's a pic of our sweety we lost. I absolutely adored this bird even though she had eyes only for my wife. She's the only bird that has bit me hard enough I danced the dance of pain. As you probably know, Pois have that robo beak feature. Not only can they snap like normal parrots but they can clamp down and tighten up like a vice. But I loved her to pieces. I also have a thing for Conures, mostly Green Cheeks. I just love them. I've never heard of the crimson bellied, very pretty. I've had two GCCs. The second one was an unwanted bird passed around CraigsList until we found him. He instantly made best buds with my daughter's parrotlet and then, as the story I like to tell goes, he ran off with my daughter (and her parrotlet). He went from being an unwanted bird to me and my daughter fighting over him

One of the hidden secrets of the parrot world - Pois. We had a Jardines and she was amazing, even as a rescued bird from a bad situation. I fell hard for her but we lost her last year. We have another male on the way. Did you happen to be watching the drama in NY City unfold when Truman flew the coop? If you don't know who he is, he's a famous Cape owned by the Parrot Wizard. Welcome to the AG forums btw!

Here's how we make oatmeal - Greycie gets excited when she knows I'm making some for her - it's her favorite treat: Quaker old fashioned oats Tiny bit of almond butter Small amount flax seed, quinoa, and chia seed Unflavored almond milk Cinnamon Banana water I've used Fage yogurt in place of the almond milk. Microwaved and consistency as Dave said - warm and lumpy. She goes nuts!. She will pace back and forth while I make this and gives me the baby squeaks over and over with her wings slightly out and quivering. It's the only thing she gulps down.

Elvenking - I'm not sure of the history of your bird as I haven't been here that long. Wondering - is he an 'only' bird? Also does he get lots of exercise? These are just two things I can think of that might make a difference. Here's my thoughts: My boss got a baby Grey at nearly the same time as me. His bird is clipped and is alone during the day. His bird plucked herself bald on her backside at just over a year. His bird is alone all day and is also clipped so cannot fly. My bird has had a constant companion her whole life, either the Jardines we lost last year, or the Caique we got shortly after that or my wife. Greycie is never alone - ever. Also I am a stickler about vigorous exercise, for my bird and for myself as well. I train pretty hard 4-6x per week which helped bring me back from the brink of hell about 10 years ago and I pretty much practice the same, but much much less intensity with my Grey. She gets 10-20 tosses in the morning making a loop around our living room and then into the kitchen. I will immediately get her and send her off again not allowing much rest. Her beak and feet start to get warm up with some minor panting near the end. At one point I got lazy with her and stopped for about a month. Her flying started to resemble a flying pig and I actually started having behavior problems. My wife noticed too and asked if I would start flying her again. Two weeks after resuming her morning and evening flights, she's back to normal. She will actually prod me in the morning to 'go play' pterrordactyl. She loves it (until about the 10th interval). I'm a firm believer in providing an outlet for their anxiety through exercise. It works for us. Some food for thought. I say all this and I may be posting next month about my Greycie has plucked herself bald....

You're not the only one that would take a 16 week boat ride to get them back. I wouldn't even think twice about it. Hoping for the best.

My advice is to keep flighted ESPECIALLY since you are experienced with flighted birds. We have a breeder we are currently dealing with that has the same rule: she lets them fledge and fly for a while and then shortly before sending them to their new home will trim them. We've worked out a deal, and you may be able to do the same, that if we agree to keep the baby caged with minimal out time for the first two weeks, she will 'consider' not clipping. We're going through the whole 'may I see pictures' of of our current setup, birds, new baby setup etc. Feels like an invasion of privacy but I think it's worth it to get a bird that isn't clipped. Plus I know she's not just a breeder that wants to sell birds. She's genuinely concerned about the new home where she's sending one of her babies.

I'm just surprised you haven't been bitten in 6 years. Where did I go wrong I get bit every time I step out of line which is usually several times a day - and I'm Greycie's sweety pie puddin topps. Our issues usually deal with jealousy over me messing with the Caique - she can't stand that. I've also been bitten for not knowing she's hungry, thirsty, it's currently mommy time, etc...as she doesn't talk in context and sometimes I miss the birdy body language. Hang in there, they're easily forgivable.

Welcome to the GreyForums. We are very similar: former Marine and vet of round 1 of the fight for Big Oil interests in the sand flea pit. I also wanted a girl Grey when I started looking, I have no idea why. I love her to bits. We have a male Caique and I love him to bits but he's what you would expect of a boy: feed me, water me and wrestle with me but my heart belongs to mommy. The female Grey seems to have bonded with me, I don't know if being a female helped that aspect or not. Your crafty-ness will be put to good use making toys and swings and ropes and whatever else you'll see pictures of and decide your Grey needs that. Also playing and singing the guitar is a gift. I believe the fastest way to a Grey's heart outside of their crop is through music. I can't play anything but youtube and Greycie Grey loves it when I go on an 80s music or classic country bender.

Why can't you live closer to me

Somehow I read that as 'I'm in Victoria'....ooops.