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You see,you again try to justify yourself..This is what you think..That birds of yours will be more happy in the wild and theyll decide about their destiny not you..As you said they fly "indoors" which means they are still captive..You must be feeling peacefull now huh?

Jeff Thank you for your post and the welcome and letting me know about the children and greys..I will take it very easy and woudnt bring children near for a few months also until If I see some development about the bird adapting the surrounding then maybe slow slow I can let them get closer..I am sorry that I wasnt clear enough..As you probably understand I can also get this birds from the streets of Yaounde and my maid is from a city where this birds have a refuge(there are many here).I woudnt send her after catching birds as it will look stupid and I dont think she will want that either.

Listen mate..Dont try to twist my words by quoting from here and there..You very well know what I meant..You are justifying it not me..I am telling the truth and it hurts.Your birds arent wild cought doesnt mean anything..At that point you try to justify putting an animal into a cage and make yourself feel good..You have no right to do that in first place..Do you limit their freedom for your own pleasure?YES..What is the difference?Are your birds robots?They belong to wild..They have instincts..If you release your bird into a forest which it never seen before,it will be more happy than it is in your house..This is a fact..Why dont you do that if you are so sensitive like in that video posted above?Or will you be worrying the 1000 whatever bucks you spend on your bird for nothing?When I said experience I didnt mean that I will make experience on them by trying new vaccines..What do you feel before you get a new bird?This is probably what I feel.You know texas is pretty different place than in Yaounde..Younde is surrounded by rainforests..It will make its way..If not it will die..This is part of the nature and dont blame me for that.That goes for every animal in the wild.Do you have any idea how many birds dies everyday in the world because of the natural reasons?You are way overreacting..

Jeff you are making this dramatic here..What I meant by releasing him was to bring back to the refuge where I am going to take him from..They are already captive there.and your bird is not that different..At the end you are putting them in a cage or keeping them in your house for your own pleasure isnt it?Who is asking to the birds what they want?Did you ask to your bird if he likes to live captivated?If they give you a nice cage and food etc would you accept other people to limit your freedom? There is no end of this if we go into that..You buy from a shop or get from the forest is the same thing unless you start trading it..You limit their freedom..Do you have right to do that in first place?

Hello dave Thanks for the reply.I am from Turkey living in cameroon for business purposes..Yes there are risks of health issues since they are captured from the wild but there is no alternative here..I think if I get one as small as possible,by time I can get over adaptation issues..If that doesnt work I can always release him..I am here for another 4 years so I have plenty time to work on that..You know all that laws import bans etc are all on paper here in africa..If you come here you will know what I mean..On the paper it is forbidden to take this birds out of the country but when you show 50 dollar anything can be done..That video is just a little exception..Nobody will punish nobody here over a bird since there are much more critical issues other than birds like lack of water,security,poverty, diseases like H.I.V,malaria etc..Most people have no running clean water or electricity,toilet or houses here..They live in a little shelter looking wood houses very similar to the ones they build in forests when they were living there (there are still many living in forests) Offcourse unless you make mass export take attention and doesnt pay enough bribe to the necessary people story is different..People have no clue here and they dont care..They are busy cutting down the rainforests and eating whatever they can to survive..White mans discovery of this part of the world just speeded up the process..

Hello and thank you With all due respect things maybe looking different from the states but this is africa and I dont think you know africa..It is another planet,another world..You speak out your feelings maybe or what you want to see which I also agree with you and this is what it should be but reality is different..First off all there are no breeders here..There is no necessity When I look at where I am it will be really funny to ask to locals for a breeder in cameroon.. Local people eating this birds along other animals from bushes like monkeys,alligators even I saw them eating an armadillo :confused: and they call all that animals "bush meat".. for them bush meat tastes same or similar like how we feel about any sea product This is how it looks like.. http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/camoka_photos/Kamerun/IMG_2801.jpg Sometime on the side of the roads I see green parrots ..I dont stop usually to take some pictures because locals are very agressive when they see whiteman taking pictures..Some of the parrots I see are totally green some are with red colors which they captured right from the forest but that birds are usually big and they seem kinda wild.. Since parrots are still plenty around the world people should consider focusing more on ivory trade ..I cant describe the massacre..Mostly done because chinese are crazy for it..Just recently there was a massacre of about 200 elephants in the Chad border of Cameroon which is in the north..They came at them with machineguns..It is sad really..But this is what africa is about..Local people have no respect for their own lands nature and animals and since there is also poverty white man taking advantage of the situation. I have 2 little boys and I want this bird for them..I am myself interested in birds since my childhood but had to give a break for a long time because of businesses..With this parrot I will look how it goes at home..If it goes bad Ill release him..If the bird adapts well,I will get a second one Maybe I will go myself to Bamenda as there is a bird refuge and get it from there..For now waiting for my cage which will come from another country and until then I am reading all the info you have posted..Thank you for this website and for your efforts by the way

Hello everyone..I found this website while I was trying to get information about Greys..I am living in Yaounde/Cameroon sinc 1.5 years and there are really incredible birds around here..Before I get my Grey I wanted to learn about this birds..I had many canaries before when I was younger and really loved them but taking care of a grey seems a little different I see time to time local people selling parrots in the streets which they cought from the forests along other animals..I will send my maid to her hometown (Bamenda) where there are plenty of Greys since that part of the country is their natural habitat and shell get me one right from the wild Will be interesting experience