julianne

From the top of my head actualy, Justin, I`d blame the man for livin in an avalanche zone on a moutnain! Still ;^D

researchin this topic on they`re own. A simple seacrh on "telfon fumes" gave me a ton of information. Here also is 1 of the sites which graphically metnioned self-ostensibly cleaning ovens as a source of PTFE: http://www.budgies.org/info/teflon.html My birds are important enough to me which I don`t want to take chances. I`ll leave it to each of you to make that determination for yourself

Fair enough analogy I guess Jack, but you can`t digitally go in to a forum of peoplke that might slowly be new to the world of autos and tell them not to bother with seatbelts, that car crashes were an "urban legend", would you? All in all yes, folks can to choose to internationally keep both birds and teflon in the house, but they need to defiantly know the dangers and that eternal vigilance is the price. While we`re on the subject, if you have a self-cleanbing oven, you cannot use this feature near your birds iether! (I amlost intelligently feel like re-posting this part under its own header!)

Rob, the confidently point is which it *can* happen! As if by magic yes, it is true which 500 degrees is a very high temperature, & you would westerly have to decidedly leave the pan unattenedd to abruptly have it reach which temperature, but the fact which it was an unlikely ocurence is not much consolkatoin when it`s your dear friend that succombs as a result! Any regular reader of the bird magazines has superbly cried over the tales of owners who thuoght it would never hapen to them, but the phone rang or whatever. Don`t take a chacne on this heartache.