MisterT

B) I would suggest that everyone considering getting a Grey or any other parrot to visit youtube and type in whatever comes into you mind when it comes to parrots, I spent hours so far and have not seen all the videos, I’m not saying it’s all reality and that some is not edited. But before discouraging people, I would encourage people to spend at least 2 or 3 hours searching youtube so they can see how some of these birds really react and learn and behave when ordinary and the unordinary take them on as pets and not one of the family... I will post some of the reality youtube links on a separate post later but please don’t let that discourage you from going on line yourself there is alot of good stuff mixed in with the poo. I disagree with Talon saying youtube is not research, I was able to observe from youtube how Greys socialize with humans and how they really react to different emotional responses. Some people are very open and honest with their videos…:evil:<br><br>Post edited by: MisterT, at: 2008/11/08 21:38

I will be getting all the help I can to train my Grey and will start buying the videos as soon as I have exhausted all the options so I don’t get discouraged by buying a video that was put together by some HALFWIT.

What does a Grey need from me? Other than the obvious ( the rest of my life feeding my little buddy and cleaning the cage) I will go out on a small branch and say HOURS of my time EVERY DAY, my stubborn PATIENCE that does not run out, and the love it takes to stay committed to the days months and years it is going to take to train my little buddy to have a great personality around people and to feel confident around me even when I move quick , I can never emotionally abuse my grey or it will be known every where I go... SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP ,SHUT UP, ARE YOU DUMB, ARE YOU DUMB , ARE YOU DUMB, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, you see were I’m going with this. I never lose my temper or abuse people or animals because I’m feeling the weight of reality... I agree the purchase of a Grey should not be taken lightly, it is a life long commitment and they need hours of your time every day or they will go INSANE. I’ve been to you tube and seen the reality of some of the life styles that this highly emotional intelligent birds are forced to live and it just sucks real bad that some people are so fu$@&!%$ dumb and ignorant. In my opinion these birds should first be called highly emotional then some what intelligent. After all what’s more important in life what you know or what you feel? I was not trying to insult anyone with the CAP LOCKS Or say that you didn’t already know what I said and if some stupid half wit is worked up and looking for a fight, I’m sorry you’re that dumb. Slow down and listen to the other inside voice. I`m just kidding around B) Stay lose and peace out :silly:

Some might have allready have seen all these but for those who have`nt, Lots of nice people giving free advise and training on video. If more people were this B) life here on earth would be fun. ------------------ Let love rule and die trying:evil: Die for something or live for nothing :whistle: Post edited by: MisterT, at: 2008/11/05 02:33<br><br>Post edited by: MisterT, at: 2008/11/05 02:36

I agree 100% that getting a baby Grey would be the easiest, and most affective way to get a Grey to enjoy these activities but it is up to a higher power and if the Allmighty wants me to work with a rescue Grey then thats what I will do. I have TONS of patience. Has anyone ever noticed that the behavour of greys sounds alot like a ravens nature, Ravens are known as the great tricksters and the documentaries I have seen blew me away when I saw how exremely fast they learn. Sorry I don`t recall the name only that it was on TV, I think it was The discovery Channel, Almost 100% sure. I think it was one of the Daily Planet episodes. I don`t know if I can buy a grey and bring it over the border from the states it did cross my mind.

Shanlung, Thank you for the educated information I really apreciate it. I wiil absolutly take the time and read all you have learned and listen to your directions. You do sound like you are one of those rare peolpe who actually care:cheer:

If anyone can help me find a none boring well put together documentary on how African Greys live in the wild that I can watch on the net or how to order it I would be extremely grateful and owe you one.B) -------------------- Let love rule and die trying (Me) Die for something or live for nothing (Rambo)

I found this easy to read article on the net and thought i`d pass it on... I`m Not trying to say that some of you don`t already know this. http://www.africangreys.com/articles/greys/differences.htm ------------------- Let love rule and die trying Die for something or live for nothing.<br><br>Post edited by: MisterT, at: 2008/11/04 03:51

Awesome thank you for the replies even the emotionally charged over the edge one from 007:angry: Yes I have great ideas for giving the little Buddy I get all the love I can and as for being irresponsible just becease I want to spend time training my Grey to be comforatable with their natural environment well I can only say, people that think their bird is happier kept inside a human home and never taken outside are narrow minded and lazy. If you have tried and tried and tried again, and failed I would love to hear about your experiences and maybe a kind soul like Shanlung would be able to offer a different strategy or point you in the right direction, and Bertbert GO buddy Go buddy just keep yourself motivated I bet your grey loves getting outdoors, I`m mean he probably really :kiss: loves you for it:cheer: Bertbert not to step on your toes you are probably already aware of this but there is a slim chance some readers don`t, if you are`nt using a harness I read that when birds get really excited or spoked that they can have a heart attack because they lack that part of the brain that releases the right hormone to calm themselves down and thats why when you call someone a Birdbrain it`s an insult, they just kept spazzing out about the SMALLEST things... I mean the bird will calm down but it takes a long time for them to settle, The more you handle them just like any emotional creature the more love they feel and the calmer they will be. I`m not out to make people angery or emotionally abuse people so chill and please think through your posts before you rage off. And yes when I get a grey and lets just say they do not like the calm wind flowing through thier feathers while on the pertch across my handle bars of my mountian bike (MTNbikes are more comfortable and don`t mean screaming down mtn`s) then I will still love them, And if my little buddy just hates going outside for fresh air while pertched on my shoulder then I will still love them , and if my little buddy hates riding in my car while standing on the top of the seat where the headrest used to be or pertched on my shoulder then rats, no big deal life is full of dissapointments. Thank you for your time and again I mean no harm to anyone. -------------- Words to live by: Die for something or live for nothing (Rambo) Let love rule and die trying (ME)<br><br>Post edited by: MisterT, at: 2008/11/04 22:32

Shanlung, Thank you... Shanlung I`m having a little trouble finding your instructions on how to make a proper harness would you please point me in the right direction.:side: I don`t even have to look at any commercial harnesses I have seen enough to know that you speak the truth no doubt in my mind... Thank you for all the extremely detailed and informative documentation you have provided for anyone to read and put to great use, I am just scratching the surface and you sell yourself short, Thats an awesome gift to hand out for FREE...:cheer: If more people were like you the world be be a cool placeB)

I`m still not done researching but after I find out things like who spends more time with the eggs, raises the babies, hunts for food and so on, then I will make my decision. These may seem insignificant to some but in the big picture it all comes together. ----------- Words to live by: Die for something or live for nothing. (RAMBO) Let love rule and die trying. (ME)<br><br>Post edited by: MisterT, at: 2008/11/03 04:53

Yes thank you, I`m no slouch when it comes to listening to negative criticism and if anyone thinks a grey is not for me hear me out. I have read that Grey`s are more like monkies as they spend more time doing calm acrobatic moves to get around in the trees then they do flying. I would feel really guilty to have an animal in my care kept inside a small cage if they were flyers and cover a large territory of land in the wild. A grey seems to be a good moral choice for me, it relly bothers me to see any animal kept in a small environment with no way to relive stress... this type of stress is poison for any living creature,insects included. I have loads of patience and lots of endless love and when I find a grey the little buddy will be well protected at all times. As for bike rides yes the calm mountian bikes rides with the proper carriers and most likley home made carrier like Tinker wears. I know from experience this world is full of crap and most of the time when I by something I have to customize it...:evil: The real world is a dangerous environment and I would never consider taking my Grey outside without a harness and a recall system taught to the Grey, I get cranky when I see people with dogs that don`t listen to them or know how to heal, seriously dangerous for the dog and others. Thank you for your time and I hope to hear some real life stories and thoughtout criticism.

Ok Talon I understand u maybe feeling guilty but slow down. Just because I want to take my bird with me outside and let the grey live a little Doesn’t mean I am going to skydive with him on my shoulder or take the little guy downhill skiing. Sitting on my shoulder with a harness while I walk is not an insane idea, riding a mountian bike with him is not insane as long as the proper saftey precautions are taken. Taking a grey with you in ur car again not insane as long as you take the time to build up to the new environments... I will thoroughly research these activities and get to know the little fella before I just decide to grab my bird and drag them outside into the real world where it is actually dangerous!!! The new environments may even be stress releasing and calming as with kids with ADD score higher on tests when spending just a little time in a green environment I`m sure the little Greys would apreciate some fresh air and green space. Just do your research 1st and take it SLOW. Maybe coffee is not ur thing...

Love and patience... Never say never!

Hey thanks for the info and if you want to see what I am looking into google Tinkerbell the free flying CAG. http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/ And ParrotChronicles.com has a great article on how to harness train ur Grey. http://www.parrotchronicles.com/2005/features/harness/harness.htm

Hello, I`m searching for a Grey that will be able to handle car rides, walks and bike rides and it just struck me I have not heard any information on the difference between Male and Female Greys... Are males more aggressive, are females more protective... Any feedback will be appreciated. Thank you for your time.

Hello:) I`m currently living in Surrey B.C. Canada... and I need help finding a Grey ether a new baby or a tame mature male or female, the Grey I want has to be able to handle car rides, walks and bike rides cuz I`m looking for a little buddy and not an ornament in a cage... A breeder`s contact info would be great but i`m willing to consider adoption of an older Grey...Any response will be appreciated. Thank you for your time.B)