Gah another topic for me to add, I have a hatch certificate for me grey (Clëo) and was told she is now coming upto 5 months old, born 29/10/07. I was aware that upto 6 months of age their eye colour is dark grey to black, yet Clëo had a medium to pale grey eye colouring. How acurate is this visual testing for age? she has a breeder ring etc, but I'm not entirely sure wouldn't matter to me what age she is, I love Clëo more than anything, but I ended up paying a couple hundred more for a younger grey so I'm worried she's taken more money from me, which is a tad annoying, as I think she had older birds for sale for a lot less. :whistle: I just want to make sure I know how old Clëo is for any future references.