i just signed on yesterday. after reading through most of the posts i decided to jump in on this one. i have a 3 year old cag, jessup that i have had since she was 3 months and i find the information here very confusing and contradictory. some of you say dont allow on shoulder others say do. some say never use time out others say do. i was told by my breeder in the beginning to think that anytime my bird bites it is my fault for allowing it to happen. i believed her. i haven't had a bite in over two years. what did i do? well, the very first time jessup bit me i put her in a small acrylic carrier and put her in the closet with the lights out for 4 hours. the next time i did the same. after 4 times doing this jessup quit biting me. i read a lot that punishment doesn't work on parrots, but i have found, at least for me and jessup, that it works.