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TheGreyMiester wrote: GreyMiester, I was looking at it from the behavioral stand point. There was a "night" flock of large escaped pet parrots by the "river" in Santa Ana, CA. We used to watch them as they gathered. They would start to assemble at about 4:30 - 5:00 PM squawking to beat the band. You could see them in the lower branches of the 60 foot eucalyptus trees. Around deep dusk they would disappear into the trees, if you looked carefully you could see one or two about 8 - 20 feet down from the top of the tree. Most were well hidden. But they were nowhere to be found during the day. So Wayne's comments make a lot of sense to me, but not from how the birds feel. david h <>< AGreyRunsThroughIt.blogspot.com<br><br>Post edited by: imgreytoo, at: 2007/04/14 09:09

Well Togo is not a prolific talker, more a squawker, but every once in awhile he "speaks". At almost 15 weeks old I am pleased, it is more about bonding that talking! BTW, Avian Biotech International says Togo is a male. His squawking may be indicative of a space problem - please take a look at CAGE SYNDROME post, and let me know what you think. david h <>< http://AGreyRunsThroughIt.blogspot.com/

I wish I would have found this <http://www.bottlebrushstuff.com/you_need_a_bottlebrush_play_gym.htm> before my cage purchase. Read starting with paragraph 8, it starts with "Today, right now, what kind of life does your bird have.", and read through paragraph 16, ends with "Most birds, over time, suffer from CAGE SYNDROME in some manner." With an open mind consider the idea of a night roost/nest cage and a day cage or area. Using the same cage for day housing and night roosting seems very counterintuitive. How big does a day cage need to be if you have a night roost cage? I don't have the answer, but would like to know what all of you think. david h <>< http://AGreyRunsThroughIt.blogspot.com/

I was trying to keep Togo satisfied by talking to him. I said hello Togo 3 or 4 times, and he repeated with a hello Togo. I did a double take looking at the wife, as she did the same to me. I called out hello Togo and he said it again, then a 3rd time, then no more. If you remember, last Friday Togo spoke, but we haven't heard a word between then and this morning. Togo is just 3 months, I am amazed. read more at http://agreyrunsthroughit.blogspot.com/

No, I am using the 1/4 round that we already had. At the end I was sure that if we bought another cage it would have been the Mediana Playtop, http://www.avianadventures.com/mediana.htm, for the construction and features. Like two toy hangers on the playtop, the playtop can be used off cage, natural perches, 7/8 inch bar spacing, etc. All in all I thought it was the best bang for the buck, with some nice features.

I have started a sometimes blog about Kenya/Togo. So I don't bore those that don't wish to read about AWP (another wonderful parrot). S/he has been a joy so far, 3 days. http://aGreyRunsThroughIt.blogspot.com david h <>< <br><br>Post edited by: imgreytoo, at: 2007/03/31 07:36

The reason we started looking for another cage is because our breeder said ours was too small (she has not seen the cage). We bought a hardly used (plastic wrap still on the play/top tray) very nice quality P/T quarter round corner cage (30" radius). We are thinking this cage, that we like, is big enough, after the breeder said a 32 inch wide cage would be OK. The 2 corner panels are 30 inches wide, and the distance between the 2 front corners is ~42 inches. The bow front is ~46 inches, a little over 700 square inches. The construction is like macaw cages and is substantial. For me, just the overall size is in question. The bars are 3/16 of an inch with 1 inch space between them. The interior is 43 inches high. The perch on the play top ranges from 3/4 to 1 3/16 inch, probably the only original perch. With a perch behind the the food cups there would be 36 inches for wing flapping space. Is this cage big enough?

Our breeder would prefer 7/8" or even 3/4", but says this bird should be over 625g and because of this 1" spacing would be OK.

Our thinking is that we are home nearly all day everyday (run errands only once or twice a week, and I run the kids to high school each day). We have a 5-1/2' manzanita tree/perch that we plan to have the CAG on as much as she/he wants. Plus lots of holding, of course. :-) We have a table perch to put next to my wife's chair. She is recovering from a stroke, but has use of her right hand, and can stroke, hold, and cuddle with (soon to be) our CAG. For about 4 years we cared for my father-in-law's B&G Macaw, she was only in her cage when we weren't going to be in visual contact, not at home and at night. She spent most of her time on the play perch and I handled her as much as I could (I was working then). My F-I-L bought her from customs quarantine and I was the only one that would deal with the beak and what was eventually occasional biting. We are looking for another cage because we bought a hardly used (plastic wrap still on the play top tray) very nice quality P/T quarter round corner cage (30" radius), but our breeder said it was too small, we will probably use it as a night cage in our bedroom for max dark time.

We are getting our new baby CAG in 2 weeks. I would like your opinions on these 2 cages. We would prefer the 32x23 http://www.queencitypets.com/details.asp?prodid=9003223&cat=107 because of space limitations, but the 36x28 http://www.queencitypets.com/details.asp?prodid=9003628&cat=107 is acceptable also. Thanks, I'm Grey Too<br><br>Post edited by: imgreytoo, at: 2007/03/21 08:01