Dave007

Hey people, why don't ya give this guy a break? First, you get dates mixed up. Then he's accused of doing what he has to do because he's getting a new one. I didn't see that. He never said that. Then he's asked why he's taking on a new bird that's gonna take loads of work to deal with. Again, he never said anything about a new bird. Then he's asked about what kind of personality he has that would lead him to selling his bird. AND if I am missing something about a new baby then let me tell you something--I don't think we have a right to judge what his personal family situation is. I got a bird here that loved to attack the owners and when they finally had a baby, the bird decided to go after the kid. SO, I guess I should be classified as a rescuer of babies. Bad bird, wonderful infant. Then, this guy is told that it seems unfair to such a young bird to be rehomed might have a hard time adjusting. Let me tell ya something--rarely does such a young bird have a hard time adjusting to a new home. That bird I spoke of that was an attack bird was 9 at the time, is now 14 and is quite adjusted to a new place AND he doesn't attack anyone anymore which I take full credit for in solving that problem. """"EDUCATE yourself on the breed. An animal is a PART of the family once it is brought into your home. IT RELYS ON YOU!!!! If you don't have the lifestyle or temperament or what have you for the type of parrot, or animal you are getting. DONT GET IT!!!! I am just so tired of hearing the excuses about not being able to keep an animal."""""" What excuses?? The guy got a bird, can't take care of it and wants to sell it. He states that he wants the bird to go to a place where he can get more of the attention that he can't provide. You know, it seems like a lot of people forgot about thanking this guy for stating and hoping that he can find a nice place for the bird. I never did see anyone thank him for looking towards the future of the bird. Just plain old negativity shoots out. To the person who's sister saved 3000 dogs and cats--well, loads of people would consider her to be flaky and or obsessed. Whether she is or not is not known nor do I care but I'm sure that your sister wouldn't like the description of her ( flaky or obsessed) being tossed around a public board by people who really don't know why she does it. And to the person who has 35 birds some of which can't adjust to a new home---well, loads of people would consider you to be a* hoarder*. Whether you are or not is not known nor do I care but I'm sure you wouldn't like to have that description of being a 'hoarder thrown around on a board by people who really don't know why you do it. As for the word 'rescue'. Use it with more discrimination. Birds who have to be rehomed aren't always being rescued all the time. There's other words that aren't used as much but are often the proper and actual description that applies. Those words are 'adopt' , 'adopted', adoption. I got 2 birds here who are both adults that I adopted as adults who couldn't live in their original homes. They were difficult birds. I never 'rescued' either one. I was asked to take them and I did. The people had different reasons about why they couldn't keep them. In other words, I adopted them. PS---that bird I spoke of who was an attack bird, well I know for a fact that many here who would have 'rescued' him would eventually be looking to either sell or give him away after seeing what he was like and what he liked to do and that would have been within 2 months after getting him. Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/07/05 22:30<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/07/05 23:13

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Judy "" I know firsthand "" So, I assume that in your spare time you're involved in scientific research involving the lengthy attention span of gnats. That's very interesting. It's about time that a person such as yourself finally turned this silly thread into something substantial where we can all learn from someone who has first hand experience. Gnats draw lots of interest in today's upper society but so far, everything that been said is just rumor and opinions.

That's just some dirt. Could have gotten it by rubbing against the dusty bars of the cage. Look at the feathers closely. They're stuck together. Take a damp rag and wipe it. Yeah it could have been oil or other dirt that got on the foot and she then scratched at the area which is one of the most common areas that they scratch at.

Two close up photos please. 1--left ear, 1--right ear.

Tell me something, just how were you able to measure the attention span of a paper clip? Share your methods and secrets please.

Oh yeah? Well Judy, thanks so much for your extreme negativity. Spreading those kinds of words amongst people here shows just how much of a lousy attitude you can harbor when things aren't going your way. Geez, silly me. I really thought you were okay in my book. I guess everyone can make a mistake though. In a way, it's a good thing when someone shows their true colors though.

Nychsa I see the picture and you see the picture but you're not really seeing the whole picture. Look again. The face, the eyes staring up at you. Obviously, she's just putting up with your sweetness. Look at her. Believe me, she's saying something to you BUT you just can't see the real truth. So sad:unsure:

I think you have a very willful uncaring bird there. She appreciates nothing. She lives to cause trouble day after day. She doesn't care about how much labor you put into things. She's sneaky cause she waits until your back is turned. She's one of those birds that doesn't deserve a fine home with a nice caretaker. It's best to just open the window and make her fly away. Then she can see how things are done in the real world. AND, if she comes back looking for forgiveness, say no and remind her of how many chances you gave her to straighten up her act. Face it, she's a typical female even if she is only a bird. To sum it up, dump her.

i'm afraid that unfortunately, a grey wouldn't be the right bird for you. As a matter of fact, for many people, an african grey isn't a good *first bird*. They aren't loud but that would be the least of your problems. A person has to devote a lot of time into having a grey. Yes, greys are known to be one person birds and that has to be dealt with immediately and it would have to involve your whole family on a constant basis. Grandma would have to be an experienced bird person in order to deal with a grey. Listen dear, you're only 14 yrs old. You've got high school ahead of you. You have boys in your future, college etc etc. Try to enjoy your youth while you're still able to. I can say other things here but they wouldn't apply to your situation. Even after you doing research, I can already tell you that at this time in your life, you're not ready for a grey or other similiar sized parrot. If you really wanna parrot, start off with a small sized parrot that can live in a cage 24 hours a day. A grey needs to be out of their cage for a good part of the day. The cage has to be big and it's a hard job to clean. When a grey bites, it can hurt for many days and sometimes they even put holes in a person's skin so a person can bleed alot. And, do you wanna know something? The person can't even scold the bird because if they do, the bird will bite them again and again. Everyone here has been bitten seriously by their grey and sometimes, that person winds up crying. The most important thing you should know is that a parrot is a wild animal and will always be a wild animal no matter where it lives and how long it lives there. Dogs and cats are different cause they're domestic animals.

Kebbie I'm not sure I know what you mean by a hairspray bottle. Does that bottle contain an aerosal? It has chemicals in it that the hairspray bottle came with? Any way, any type of spray bottle that has a nozzle that has a squeeze type trigger should be used. The top of the nozzle should be able to be turned either to an off or on position. The best nozzle to have is one who's tip can be turned so that an adjustable mist can come and if turned, a adjustable stream can come out. Those are the ones pictured. You can get them in any place that sells garden supplies. Very inexpenive or you can use an old Windex type bottle which should be cleaned very thororhly ( a drop of liquid soap ). Shake and rinse out completely. Use handle so the soapy water goes through nozzle. If needed, do it twice. Put the bottle away and label it BIRD. I have 2 sprayers--left one is for water--right one is for aloe juice. <br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/06/26 19:14

A man has a dog that snores in his sleep. Annoyed, because she can't sleep, his wife goes to the vet to see if he can help. The vet tells the woman to tie a ribbon around the dog's testicles and he will stop snoring. A few hours after going to bed, the dog is snoring as usual. Finally, unable to sleep, she goes to the closet and grabs a piece of ribbon and ties it around the dog's testicles, and sure enough, the dog stops snoring. The woman is amazed! Later that night, her husband returns home drunk from being out with his buddies. He climbs into bed, falls asleep, and begins snoring very loudly. The woman thinks maybe the ribbon will work on him. So she goes to the closet again, grabs a piece of ribbon, and ties it around her husband's testicles. Amazingly, it also works on him! The woman sleeps very soundly. The next morning, the husband wakes up very hung over. He tumbles into the bathroom to urinate. As he is standing in front of the toilet, he looks in the mirror and sees a blue ribbon attached to his privates. He is very confused, and, as he walks back into the bedroom, he notices a red ribbon attached to his dog's testicles. He shakes his head, looks down at the dog, scratches his head and says: "Boy, don't remember where we were or what we did, but, by God, we got first and second place!"

You just might have one of those greys that simply don't like bathing/ showering/ misting. It's not uncommon. Not all birds conform to those 3 actions BUt, after those things being done over and over, they will accept the fact that it's gonnabe done and the bird will have to put up with it. The anger will be less but the annoyance will remain the same. The person who previously owwned the bird should have been the one posting this question here. Unfortunately, that person didn't and decided to go the easy route. In your situation, misting /spraying the least traumatic. I wrote this and it applies to bathing and spraying. Just pay attention to the spraying directions and also, don't be surprised when he shows utter dislike for this--BUT in your situation it simply has to be done no matter what the bird's reaction is. Another thing you need to realize is that he's 5 and has a set in stone attitude about baths. Bathing/Spraying------most greys don't like bathing or spraying but they do need to get it done, especially since they have dander(white dust that they always throw off). Here is a suggestion....First , use colder water. They like that colder temperature better than tepid water. Second, when you're spraying him, try to get as close as possible with the sprayer, and don't spray his face. Many parrots don't like getting misted from a distance. It's much more annoying to them than when the sprayer is closer. Third, when you do get closer only use 1/2 squirts. The shock of the water isn't as great as it is from a distance. Fourth, the grey won't open his wings when you're spray him so when you're using the sprayer, turn the knob so that the water comes out it would from a water pistol. With him facing you,squirt the water between the wing and his body. The water works it's way in and he will spread it around. Fifth, a grey's feathers are waterproof and it sometimes looks like the water is just rolling off which it is. You should keep spraying the outer wings because the dander is laying on them. Enough wetness will soak the dander and when he shakes off the water, the dander will get soaked and fall down to bottom of the cage. Sixth, never towel dry or hair dry hiom after a bath or spray. The longer he stays wet, the more he benefits from the bath/spray. Sixth, the best way to get a grey used to spraying is constant repetition combined with 1/2 squirts. Do it once a day if you can. Expect squawks, growls and screeching but whether you know it or not, a grey likes the feeling it gets after getting a bath/spray Believe it or not, your problems and situations are not as complex as you think. Mainly, it all has to do with time plus not putting time limits on anything you want to accomplish. And of course, don't expect a total turnaround in his attitude. The good part to this--your bird will be cleaner with less chance of developing dry skin.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/06/26 02:18

""""""How can one tell if one's grey is bigboned or over weight? """ keel bone has nothing to do with the classification of a bird's size. It's the whole frame of the bird that matters. Most don't know what catagory their bird is in so the best way to judge is usually the age. At 8 to 10 mts, the bird's frame and size is final. Some weight can and will be put on afterward but the size catagory is generally regulated by the frame. Congo African Grey --small frame--380 to 430 medium frame---440 to 485 large frame----510 to 610 Timneh African Grey--small frame--310 medium frame--315 to 325 large frame---335 to 350 All of these figures can vary slightly. My smallest congo grey is 554 My largest congo is 603 My Timneh is 320

Greys are not known to be one of the species that has problems with obesity. It's usually the other way around. Amazons have a big problem with obesity as well as eclectus. Grey's weight size has to do with the catagory they fall into as far as small, medium and bigboned frames

The only foliage that greys can safely nibble on is the type that surrounds palm nuts in the wild. The nuts are their staple food and when they nibble on it, they create openings in the ends of the branches which stimiulate more palm nut growth. It's not a good idea to put foliage in with parrots because even though they most likely won't actually eat the foliage but will only chew at it, many different types of sap which is in various leaves will adhere to the insides of the upper and lower mandibles causing a sticky residue that will take a while to fade away. In the mean time, when your bird eats what food you give him will stick to that gummy substance and create a possible infection. You really should consider going through the many different accepted methods of dimishing plucking/chewing of the feathers even though some of those methods might not work well. It takes a long time to slow down the process of plucking/chewing and most of the time, the bird will not look that great because all of the feathers have to come in evenly.

bad breath usually occurs in a bird when they've eaten certain pungent things like peppers and other spicy things frequently, but that doesn't happen often and as they older, their breath doesn't develop any unusual foul odors. If you feel that the smell is out of the ordinary and has been happening just recently, then you should call your vet and ask about it. The vet may find it unusual and the situation may require an exam. PS--it could possibly be a minor infection under the beak area.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/06/22 01:11

give them some gnocchi or cavatelli. They love that stuff

Well, you can see, there was no porn. Never realized that someone would see it so quickly. Yes, I was talking but only because I wanted to check the audio too. I couldn't get it back into my personal files until today. I figured out a way to copy from PI back to me so it's now in my personal files. Thank you for your concern but not to worry, I not ready for the loony bin

Sorry about this. 1 yr ago, I took a video of my back yard. I was moving around testing the darkness and brightness of different areas. It was my first time taking a video with this brand new camera. It can do 20 minutes beside pics. I put it in my personal files and then I put it in Photobucket and it was fine. The very bad thing I did was to accidently erase the video from my personal files. The only way I could watch it was on Photobucket. So, today I finally figured out a way to take that copy from Photobucket and put it into my personal files again. And so, a few minutes ago, I was just testing the video on the board directly from my camera and it worked so I then deleted it. Very sorry if I wasn't allowed to do that. It was just a test.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/06/21 22:07

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As far as the first part of your post--changing to strange behavior, just about everyone goes through that with their greys. They'll do that when they're babies and it's a sign of wanting to cuddled and petted. They feel very comfortable being next to a warm body because it's similar to what it felt when it was in a clutch full of other chicks. They continue to do that with their owner. Now, concerning your bird who is 2 yrs old and is doing that---right now, your bird is sexually 'aware', but not sexually 'mature'. He's doing that right now because he wants to be touched and petted in areas where you shouldn't touch him. Doing that leads to sexual excitement and frustration when the person stops. many times, the person stops and the bird nips cause he doesn't want you to stop. If that habit continues, it'll be hard to keep your bird on your lap for long periods of time because that's the first thing he'll go looking for. Petting should be kept to the head (top, back, front and upper back area) areas to stay away from--lower breast--any area near the tail ( upper or lower), under the wings against the skin. Basically, the bird is getting excited. The difference between 'aware and 'mature' is that 'aware' means sexual excitement but not able to mate and 'mature' is sexual excitement with the ability to mate--that occurs between 5 and 6 yrs. As far as going back to bird shows and pet stores, others here might tell you how they succeeded in doing that. That also applies to your question about 'out of the house ' situations.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/06/21 17:34

You really do need editing software. Most work like this--With the editing software, you watch the video and on the bottom of the screen, there's a marker that's slowly moving from left to right in tune with the video. When you come up to the bad part, you click the marker and then let the video continue. When the video gets to the good part, you click the marker again. So, there's 2 visible markers. depending upon what software you're using, there's an area that tells you to delete. The areas that get deleted are between the first marker and second marker.

He's still a very young baby at 6 mts. If it's only 2 days, he'll need time to get used to you, the family, the surroundings and the daily habits of the house. Let him relax from the safety of his cage and let him get used to the atmosphere. Don't force yourself on him. Let him show interest in you first. Give some peanuts--talk to him. Do things around him but ignore him. At other times have a one way conversation with him. Don't expect any answers or overt reactions. An imprtant thing here is that you can't compare the amount of time it took for him to show interestt in your other bird. After all, it's a bird and you're a person. TAGs don't warm up to things right away but neither do they shy away from things. So, just take it slow. It's only been 2 days