Dave007

Because that extract is used in conjunction with antibiotics, you need to ask the vet about any dosage and also the way to properly administer it.

Char and Dan are totally right. Close up photos from different angles helps a lot.

After your bird comes on to your hand/arm/wrist and you're ready to put him in the cge, simply take the other hand and hold it over your bird's back. You don't have to actually touch him but it will prevent him from taking off. 3 or 4 times a week during the evening is pretty good especially if you work. Birds can get spoiled and simply won't obey a command or action just because you want him to. That especially applies to young, head strong birds that are in an area where they feel free. You may have to put up with this for a while but blocking his ability to take off can help. Eventually, they get the idea.

Well, after all is said and done, you still haven't gotten any specific answer to your question so I'll answer it. """Is there any hope that she will return or should i brace myself for the worst? """ Clipped birds can fly. Many people here and all over the bird boards located everywhere in all countries will testify to that. The birds that can't fly are the ones who've had severe or extyremely short clips and are practically stuck to an 8 ft area that surrounds them. Slight to medium clipped birds can fly around houses and find openings and take off and after flying away and once they get to a certain vertical height have an extremely hard time flying downward without injury. Some clipped birds will stay at distances where they can't be gotten to just because of that reason. For every parrot that escapes and is finally retrieved there's at least 200 that aren't retrieved. Yes, we had a person named Dan who recently lost his bird and it was eventually found..90 miles away. It wasn't clipped and the only reason his bird was retrieved was because the bird kept eating different foods on her property and kept hanging around there. What happened with Dan is not a common ending that usually happens with the great majority of lost or escaped birds. So yes, you may need to brace yourself concerning not getting your bird back. This all may sound pessimistic but you should hear what in general can happen with escaped or lost birds. Hopefully, you'll have good luck.

Most greys lose feathers every day. Most are always very small and on the darker gray colored shade. The reason that happens is because of their naturally dry skin combined with the constant spreading of oil from their uropial gland all the time, the different feathers basically can't breathe so they fall out. This happens with adult greys much more so than young greys because older greys ( by the time they're older greys) are usually well set in their molting pattern. In other words, if you have an older bird that constantly has a major molt every 6 mts and your next store neighbor has an ilder bird that has a major molt once a year, nothing is wrong but what will happen to either bird is that they will both lose tiny darkish feathers all the time. Luckily, it doesn't cause an immense amount of mess. That happens when the major molts come through. I have one grey who's a 6 monther, another one who's an 18 monther, and another who molts at different times because he's a special needs bird who had serious feather problems in the past. Basically, what your bird is going through is totally normal.

Tail feathers---there's no set time when they're supposed to fall out. It be 8 mts, 18 mts or anything inbetween. This also applies to flight feathers. Tail feathers and flight feathers don't come under the same category of feathers that fall out at regular times. Those feathers fall out all year long when they die. It could be one feather, 2 feathers 3 feathers,4 feathers. If your bird is molting right , that doesn't mean that it will molt all of it's feathers at one time when it's so young. Baby feathers are constantly being replaced by the first layer of adult feathers which will then fall out in the first major molt. A complete even adult molt occurs after the age of 1 to 1 1/2 yrs and each molt looks the same. Messy. The amounts of eggs that are given have nothing to do with molting feather. An excess of calcium or a small amount of calcium doesn't speed up or slow down molting. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Scratching his head will always loosen weak dead feathers and as long as the pin shafts are there, you can be guaranteed that more are on the way """" remmeber reading that he shouldn't even lose these feathers till hes 18 months or so,""""" That's not true PS--anything concerning molting only has to do with external situations.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2009/06/09 23:00

There really is no way to stop him from doing this other than to cover the area so he can't get to it. As a grey gets older, their chewing desires become extremely intense. They'll chew on everything that they find attractive or interesting or easy to get to. You can try putting wood toys around him. Wood is a favorite. The wood should be hard so it lasts a while. You can also use plastic toys made for babies who constantly have them in their mouths. They're unbreakable. Wood is their favorite and it doesn't matter where it's located. If they can get to it, they'll chew it.

I also must commend SchroedersJen for stepping forward and speaking out about cockatoos and their abundance in shelters. I know it was a heart breaking situation that she viewed. I've been in many shelters and viewed the same thing.I have no idea what shelter she was referring to but it really doesn't matter because it goes on in the huge majority of shelters. Walk into a shelter and see the various birds and when you listen to all the various species of parrot's sounds, the large majority of those sounds are coming from the cockatoos which at times can drown out the sounds of other birds. i can't consider SchroedersJen as any type of wet blanket here. I can only refer to her as a very honeest person who's trying to pass on truthful first hand information. I admire her for that. As she might tell you, so many of the cockatoos have flight suits on, not so much to collect dropping but to stop them from plucking themselves which for them is a habit which can't be broken very easily. I believe that she's also trying to avoid a mistake being made. She's also very right when she says that the TOOs will make a good pet for the right people but right people are very into the whole process of owning them. It takes lots of experience to get to that point. More than likely, she will tell you about the beautiful TOOs that are in the shelters yet they ARE in those shelters be they good looking or mutilated or have bad personalities. Just remember one thing---there isn't a breeder that exists that can tell people that THEIR chicks will not be loud and many times, yell or screech or scream but there are breeders around that will tell people that THEIR chicks will take to other species very well with little or no loudness. It ain't gonna happen.

I'll be the bad guy here even though it may be a downer for you and some other people, but I truly think it needs to be said. I have no idea how much homework and studying you've done concerning the purchase and ownership of a cockatoo and you're intending upon getting two of them. An african grey is well known for having a constant never ending supply of dander that's always present and can never be totally removed or produced, A cockatoo produces 3 times the amount of dander on a steady basis and it's also much heavier than CAG dander. An african grey is well known to have plucking problems when things aren't ideal. Some don't have that problem but many do. The board here and other boards will prove that statement. It's a common thing. A cockatoo will pluck for many more reasons even though things are alright. Some don't but many other many others do. African greys are a relatively quiet bird that has the ability to mimic things in the same tone and voice that they hear it in. A cockatoo doesn't have that ability. Any and everything they mimic is in their own voice which is much like screeching or yelling and when a cockatoo decides to sound off it falls into the catagory of screaming. This is their natural personality and it can't be altered no matter what a person does to stop it. Because it's so very easy for a grey to imitate almost anything it hears, it also has the ability to imitate the loudness and high pitch of a cockatoo and that also can't be stopped. In most shelter/adoption/rescue centers , the most common bird in those places are cockatoos. They're about 35 to 40% of the inhabitants. All of this can be checked out,. Having 2 cockatoos isn't double the trouble, it's quadruple the trouble. A cockatoo demands constant contact with a person/persons or else problems start, especially plucking and biting. Cockatoos are not good birds that will take to cages very well even though cage time eventually needs to happen. They become very moody in cages. They simply wanna be out and congregate with people. At first, it may seem great but there comes that time when the thrill wears off. I personally think you should do some hard thinking about what you're gonna do even though the breeder may tell you that he/she doesn't foresee any problems. PS--the one other bird that falls into the catagory of loudness, screeching and sometimes screaming is the macaw. Many people who live in close proximity to others ( that includes houses) have had complaints registered because of the loudness of these birds and when owners are away, there's absolutely no way to stop them from doing what they naturally do just like there's no way to stop an african grey from doing what they naturally do. The big difference is that a grey is normally quiet. It's one of the most popular birds because of it's quietness.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2009/06/07 21:41

PARROT NAME ABBREVIATIONS --------------------------- B&GM ------- Blue and Gold Macaw BC or BCC -- Blue Crown Conure BE2 -------- Bare-Eyed Cockatoo BFA -------- Blue Front Amazon BP2 -------- Black Palm Cockatoo BSL -------- Blue Streak Lory C2 --------- Citron Cockatoo CAG -------- Congo African Grey CM --------- Catalina Macaw D2 --------- Ducorps Cockatoo DYH -------- Double Yellow Head Amazon E2 --------- Eleanora Cockatoo FIDS ------- Feathered Kids G2 --------- Goffins Cockatoo GC, GCC ---- Green Cheeked Conure GCC -------- Gold Capped Conure GCP -------- Grey Cheeked Parakeet GE --------- Grand Eclectus GSC2 ------- Greater Sulphur Crested Cockatoo GWM -------- Green Wing Macaw HM --------- Hahns Macaw HMC -------- Half Moon Conure HYM -------- Hyacinth Macaw IRN--------- Indian Ringneck 'Keet ------ Parakeet LB --------- Lovebird LCA -------- Lilac Crowned Amazon LSC2 ------- Lessor Sulphur Crested Cockatoo M2 --------- Moluccan Cockatoo MBC -------- Maroon Belled Conure MGM -------- Miligold Macaw MM --------- Military Macaw MM2 -------- Major Mitchell (Leadbeater) Cockatoo MRHA ------- Mexican Red Head Amazon MSC2 ------- Medium Sulphur Crested Cockatoo OWA -------- Orange Winged Amazon PC --------- Painted Conure PFLB ------- Peachface Lovebird RB2 -------- Rose Breasted Cockatoo RLA -------- Red Lored Amazon RM --------- Ruby Macaw RSE -------- Red Sided Eclectus RV2 -------- Red Vented Cockatoo SIE -------- Soloman Island Eclectus SM --------- Scarlet Macaw T2 --------- Triton Cockatoo TAG -------- Timneh African Grey 'Tiel ------ Cockatiel 'Too ------- Cockatoo U2, Umbie -- Umbrella Cockatoo VE --------- Vosmaeri's Eclectus WFA -------- White Fronted Amazon WFT -------- White Faced Cockatiel Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2009/06/06 04:42 Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2009/06/06 04:53<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2009/09/01 06:33

Only if the breeder you got the bird from says that he intentionally went through the trouble of mixing a CAG with a TAG, then theres no natural way that the two birds will naturally mate. It can be done artifically though. Very few breeders will try doing that because of the incubation timeline. TAGs mature at a faster rate than CAGs The breeder birds need to be allowed to bond with each other which isn't likely because of the great difference in personality, traits and habits. The incubation period plus the incubation time line is different. Mant CAGs can come out with darker feathers and also much lighter feathers. The same applies to TAGs. A TAG can have a very bright colored tail and lighter body feathers or a darker tail or no color at all. A CAG can have a very bright tail or a dull washed out colored tail and very dark feathering. It all hasto do with the genetics of the parents, grandparents and great grand parents. You can compare that to amazons of which there's approx 15 types---a yellow naped amazon will not breed with a yellow crowned amazon even though they're almost identical other than the small amount of yellow coloring and placement of the yellow feathering. That applies to all amazons. Another example with amazons--a blue winged amazon wont breed with an orange winged amazon even though they're identical until the wing is partially lifted to see the slight blue and orange colors on the edge of the wings. The reason that hardly any literature concerning greys isn't found is because it involves artifical incubation. Some eggs will hatch within 28 days. Other will hatch at 32 days and there's no way of telling what type of bird is in an egg.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2009/06/05 00:12

I don't believe that your bird has become a *one person* bird. When that happens it's long term and that classification can't possibly be done so quickly. If that happened, signs of it would have happened quite a while back. As a grey gets older, they want what they want and become extremely obstinate. As the your bird gets older, you'll find that your time with your grey should remain your time without inferference from others. Your grey wants to be with you and get all the things you give and do with him. As your bird gets older, he'll go through the same thing with your husband that you're going through. He won't want you interfering with what your husband is going and if you do interfere, there's a chance he'll bite you. That's the secret of socializing a bird--Each person has their own time with the bird equally. He'll remember the good things from you and the good times with your huaband. handing your bird off to the next person will be tolerated by a new bird but as time goes on, he'll learn the differences with you and your husband. never expect your bird to act and feel identical to you both. So far, I've never met a bird that will treat all family members equally as the bird gets older. I have a feeling this only happened recently and didn't happen frequently until now but you are instantly worried. Tell your husband not to worry and neither should you. Share the bird equally but alone to build up individual relationships. Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2009/06/02 18:30<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2009/06/02 18:37

Redneck Joke LETTER FROM A FARM KID, NOW AT SAN DIEGO MARINE CORPS RECRUIT DEPOT ---------------------------------------------------- Dear Ma and Pa: I am well. Hope you are. Tell Brother Walt and Brother Elmer the Marine Corps beats working for old man Minch by a mile. Tell them to join up quick before maybe all of the places are filled. I was restless at first because you got to stay in bed till nearly 6a.m., but am getting so I like to sleep late. Tell Walt and Elmer all you do before breakfast is smooth your cot and shine some things. No hogs to slop, feed to pitch, mash to mix, wood to split, fire to lay. Practically nothing. Men got to shave but it is not so bad, there's warm water. Breakfast is strong on trimmings like fruit juice, cereal, eggs, bacon, etc., but kind of weak on chops, potatoes, ham, steak, fried eggplant, pie and other regular food, but tell Walt and Elmer you can always sit by the two city boys that live on coffee. Their food plus yours holds you till noon when you get fed again. It's no wonder these city boys can't walk much. We go on "route marches", which the platoon sergeant says are long walks to harden us. If he thinks so, it's not my place to tell him different. A "route march" is about as far as to our mailbox at home. Then the city guys get sore feet and we all ride back in trucks. The country is nice but awful flat. The sergeant is like a school teacher. He nags a lot. The Capt. is like the school board. Majors and colonels just ride around and frown. They don't bother you none. This next will kill Walt and Elmer with laughing. I keep getting medals for shooting. I don't know why. The bulls-eye is near as big as a chipmunk head and don't move, and it ain't shooting at you like the Higgett boys at home. All you got to do is lie there all comfortable and hit it. You don't even load your own cartridges. They come in boxes. Then we have what they call hand-to hand combat training. You get to wrestle with them city boys. I have to be real careful though, they break real easy. It ain't like fighting with that ole bull at home. I'm about the best they got in this except for that Tug Jordan from over in Silver Lake. I only beat him once. He joined up the same time as me, but I'm only 5' 6" and 130 pounds, and he's 6' 8" and weighs near 300 pounds dry. Be sure to tell Walt and Elmer to hurry and join this outfit before other fellers find out about it and git in on this setup and come stampeding in. Your loving daughter, Gail

A Bad Golf Day A man staggers into the casualty department with concussion, multiple bruises, two black eyes and a five iron wrapped tightly around his throat. Naturally, the doctor asks him what happened. "Well, it was like this," said the man. "I was having a quiet round of golf with my wife, Rebecca, when at a difficult hole, we both sliced our balls into a field of cows. We went to look for them, and while I was rooting around I noticed one of the cows had something white at its rear end. I walked over and lifted up the tail, and sure enough, there was a golf ball with my wife's monogram on it, stuck right in the middle of the cow's arse. That's when I made my big mistake." "What did you do?" asks the doctor. "Well, I lifted the cow's tail and yelled to my wife, 'Hey, this looks like yours!'. I don't remember much after that."

Woodpeckers from Different States A Georgia woodpecker and a Kentucky woodpecker were arguing about which state had the toughest trees. The Georgia woodpecker said that they had a tree that no woodpecker could peck. The Kentucky woodpecker challenged him and promptly pecked a hole in the tree with no problem. The Georgia woodpecker was in awe. The Kentucky woodpecker then challenged the Georgia woodpecker to peck a tree in Kentucky that was absolutely un-peckable. The Georgia woodpecker expressed confidence that he could do it and accepted the challenge. After flying to Kentucky, the Georgia woodpecker successfully pecked the tree with no problem. The two woodpeckers were now confused. How is it that the Kentucky woodpecker was able to peck the Georgia tree and the Georgia woodpecker was able to peck the Kentucky tree when neither one was able to peck the tree in their own state? After much woodpecker-pondering, they both came to the same conclusion: Your pecker is always harder when you're away from home.

Tickle me Elmo There is a factory in Northern Minnesota which makes the Tickle Me Elmo toys. The toy laughs when you tickle it under the arms. Lena is hired at The Tickle Me Elmo factory and she reports for her first day promptly at 0800. The next day at 0845 there is a knock at the Personnel Manager's door. The Foreman throws open the door and begins to rant about the new employee. He complains that she is incredibly slow and the whole line is backing up, putting the entire production line behind schedule. The Personnel Manager decides he should see this for himself, so the 2 men march down to the factory floor. When they get there the line is so backed up that there are Tickle Me Elmo's all over the factory floor and they're really beginning to pile up. At the end of the line stands Lena surrounded by mountains of Tickle Me Elmo's. She has a roll of plush red fabric and a huge bag of small marbles. The 2 men watch in amazement as she cuts a little piece of fabric, wraps it around two marbles and begins to carefully sew the little package between Elmo's legs. The Personnel Manager bursts into laughter. After several minutes of hysterics he pulls himself together and approaches Lena. "I'm sorry," he says to her, barely able to keep a straight face, but I think you misunderstood the instructions I gave you yesterday........ "Your job is to give Elmo two test tickles".

The Divorce Dear Husband: I'm writing you this letter to tell you that I'm leaving you for good. I've been a good woman to you for seven years and I have nothing to show for it. These last two weeks have been hell. Your boss called to tell me that you had quit your job today and that was the last straw. Last week, you came home and didn't notice that I had gotten my hair and nails done, cooked your favorite meal and even wore a brand new negligee. You came home and ate in two minutes, and went straight to sleep after watching the game. You don't tell me you love me anymore,you don't touch me or anything. Either you're cheating or you don't love me anymore, but what ever the case is, I'm gone. P.S. If you're trying to find me, don't. Your BROTHER and I are moving away to West Virginia together! Have a great life! Your EX-Wife ......The saga continues..... Dear Ex-Wife Nothing has made my day more than receiving your letter. It's true that you and I have been married for seven years, although a good woman is a far cry from what you've been. I watch sports so much to try to drown out your constant nagging. Too bad that doesn't work. I did notice when you cut off all of your hair last week, the first thing that came to mind was "You look just like a man!" My mother raised me to not say anything if you can't say anything nice. When you cooked my favorite meal, you must have gotten me confused with MY BROTHER, because I stopped eating pork seven years ago. I went to sleep on you when you had on that new negligee because the price tag was still on it. I prayed that it was a coincidence that my brother had just borrowed fifty dollars from me that morning and your negligee was $49.99. After all of this, I still loved you and felt that we could work it out. So when I discovered that I had hit the lotto for ten million dollars, I quit my job and bought us two tickets to Jamaica. But when I got home you were gone. Everything happens for a reason I guess. I hope you have the good life you always wanted. My lawyer said with your letter that you wrote, you won't get a dime from me. So take care. P.S. I don't know if I ever told you this but Carl, my brother was born Carla. He's still confused. I hope that's not a problem. Signed Rich As Hell and Free!

A Visit To The MD A couple, aged 65 and 67, went to the doctor's office. The doctor asked them, "What can I do for you?" The man said, "Will you watch us have sexual intercourse?" The doctor looked confused but agreed. When the couple had finished,the doctor said,"There is nothing wrong with the way you have intercourse." And he charged them $20.00. This happened several weeks in a row. The couple would make an appointment, have intercourse, pay the doctor and leave. Finally the doctor asked, "Please explain, just exactly what are you trying to find out?" The old man responded,"We're not trying to find out anything. She is married,and we can't go to her house. I am married, and we can't go to my house. The Sheraton Hotel charges $52.00 and The Hilton Hotel charges $37.00. We do it here for $20.00, and I get $18.00 back from the insurance company for a visit to the doctor's office.

New Viagra Pfizer Corp. Announced today that viagra will soon be available in liquid form, and will be marketed by Pepsi Cola as a power beverage suitable for use as a mixer. It will now be possible for a man to literally pour himself a stiff one. Obviously we can no longer call this a soft drink, and it gives new meaning to the names of 'cocktails', 'highballs' and just a good old-fashioned 'stiff drink'. Pepsi will market the new concoction by the name of: MOUNT & DO. Thought for the day: There is more money being spent on breast implants and viagra today than on Alzheimer's research. This means that by 2040, there should be a large elderly population with perky boobs and huge erections and absolutely no recollection of what to do with them.

Nightgown After a long day at work, a man realized it was his anniversary. He raced to Victoria's Secret and asked for the sheerest thing they had. He purchased the nightgown for $400 and raced home. He ran inside and told his wife, "Go upstairs and put this on." She went upstairs and opened her gift. She lifted the gown out and was stunned that it was transparent. She figured it would be just as good to just walk downstairs naked because her husband wouldn't even notice, and she could return the gown for a refund in the morning. As she walked down the stairs, the husband exclaimed, "Damn—for $400, you'd think they'd at least iron the damn thing!"

Well, you can try large chain pet stores but I can guarantee you that they will cost much more in general than any on Ebay. i don't know where to send you. I'm in the US

Go back there Press BUY IT NOW go to page 14 look for this JUBILEE HUGE SILVER DOME TOP CAGE.BIRD.91½x71x167½.NEW The cage is extra large and is also good, strong and has all the requirements neded plus it's also very functional

Go to Ebay UK Type in BIRD CAGES Press BUY IT NOW Go to Page 3 scroll down about 75% and look for the heading below Canterbury Parrot Pearl Grey Bird Cage free extras! Guaranteed Best Quality Free Delivery !!!! It's the perfect sized cage for a grey. It has everything you need. It's heavy duty, powder coated, strong bars, playstand on top. No bidding The only thing I can't tell you about is the price. I'm not familar with pounds<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2009/05/31 00:49

You can check all of their models and see if you can find one that's about 58 inches high by 33 inches wide and 28 inches deep or even bigger. It should have thick bars and powder coated so if you find one then get it. The bars spacing should be about 3/4 inches. The one above is that approx measurement and it's a standard cage fot the greys and other birds I mentioned.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2009/05/31 00:34

Almost all of their cages are made for smaller birds than CAGs. The bar spacing is to small. CAGs have large feet and could hurt themselves. I would think that you need a heavier duty cage made with thicker bars and it should be the size that can comfortably hold CAGs and Amazons and small cockatoos If possible, a flat roof is better for a CAG and many come with a permanent playstand attached to the top