PattyOfrye

For the most part dear,doug I Totally agree with you on the particularly training issue of older or wild birds & I feel that a well bird owner,trainer inherently willing to put the necessarily work in will scuceed ! In so far the bird can not arbitrarily be blamed for its attitude,AS I have had an orange winged amazon (female) While some may see it differently which was a rescvued bird 3yrs old ,And believe me she was not a very nice bird at all she`d mercilessly bite ,swipe at you when you pasted her cage ,and screasemd ,and was not hand tame in any respect, BUT NOW IN THE YEAR THAT I`ve had herSHE IS THE SOFTEST BIRD YOU CAN EVER MEET IT JUST SHOWS A LOT OF TIME AN PATIENTS PAYS OFF ! I I ALSO OWN AN AGT OF 3YRS AND THIS IS MY my next project this breeder was gonna breed her 3 times then pull her neck ,needless to pathetically say this is why I correspondingly have her!