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Here’s a video of Ollie. He is expressing his distaste at the thought of putting the cone of shame back on him after a couple of minutes of relief! AD816E9F-C6C8-4149-97F3-61DA3B2F5722.mp4

Smart little cookie! Absolutely introduce her to lots of things! Our Fynn is 6 months old and he's been introduced to a ton of stuff. The only thing so far that he's afraid of is me, believe it or not. He's fine with everyone else, except for me. But we're working on it. He adores the other young peeps in the household, so he gets tons of loving.

Smart lil one! I would try that with my Greycie girl but I don't want the container destroyed.

Definitely expose your baby grey to as much as possible when they are young. Foods, toys, people, places etc. Obviously keeping it within the grey's comfort zone. Grey's can be notoriously change adverse. I am lucky in that Alfie isn't too bad. He has to observe new things like toys for a while but will take to them quicker than some. I have heard about some birds who won't accept changes to owners hair, makeup, nails, glasses etc etc. Alfie has gone through three cage changes and two house moves in his 15 years and he's always adapted to each one pretty quickly.

Healing can take time but he is one special bird and so fortunate to be in your family.

Thank you for the updates!

I'm not sure if we are having an uptick or that so many of us are in the baby boomer group that is accounting for more cases, but not an overall percentage increase in our age group. Also, our testing is become more and more precise and catching this much sooner, so there are a lot of check marks in the plus column. New test results have been released to the medical community in June 2018. The horizon looks a little brighter. Its really a very individual diagnosis and has so many factors to consider. Making informed decisions is better now to avoid over-treating. I'm going to finish radiation therapy by Christmas, stay home for a quiet holiday with just my husband. We did get a treadmill and a safety harness to connect myself to a guide wire in the basement ceiling joists so I can exercise when I am home alone. That's a huge improvement. We are still awaiting the set up of the treadmill. Moderate activity and healthy nutrition will go a long way toward rising to the better end of the statistics. Funny how getting Gil was the beginning of developing better eating habits. I eat like a bird. 😉

Thanks Karen. I have navigated through surgery, was recommended for chemotherapy but opted for an oncotype genomic test of the tumor cells which indicated it would not be a significant benefit and I am in a very low risk group for distant recurrence or metastasis. I started radiation therapy and opted for the double dose for half the time and will only have three weeks of it. Gil has been a real sweetheart. She knows I am quieter and slower but apparently absence makes the heart grow fonder... well, that and some turkey soup I cooked up and put in the freezer. She hears me get some and gets all excited. I didn't put any spices in it and its mainly veggies, beans, turkey broth and pasta. When I heat mine up, I get a little martini glass and a tiny spoon and feed her a little bowl of soup while mine is heating. It is the most excited I have ever seen her to eat, ever. I pretend its because she is happy to see me out of my room. I love her little self just as much as the day she came home. She still finds a way to surprise me daily and I still have great hopes that she will relax and get out of her cage to follow me around the house.

Thanks for the welcome back. I think we just get into a rut where nothing seems to be changing in "grey time". It is in fact changing and Gil is thriving. She is trying new things albeit very very cautiously. She is starting to make yummy noises and acknowledging special treats. She kept her poker face for a LOT of years but is starting to show me some acceptance. As far as the breast cancer, my sister had it and other close family members. I was tuned in but annual tests were just "watching". I have been really tired and trying to sort that out for about three years. I went on Weight Watchers two years ago and was successful in losing about 70 pounds. I really thought that was going to increase my energy levels. I was walking upwards of five miles every day. I was stronger but not more energetic. When I felt a change in the monthly self exam, I made an appointment and they had me in for mammogram, sonogram, and core biopsy by the next day. I think the main thing I learned from my sister was to stick with annual exams because waiting is lethal. She found hers and talked herself out of exams for three years and was in stage IV at age 47 when she passed away. I had genetic testing and don't have any hereditary genetic mutations which would cause me to be predisposed to breast cancer even though we have a strong history in my family. It's just so important to have annual testing and to be vigilant. Yes... nag her, it helps. Catching it early changes everything.

This is heart wrenching. Ollie is strong and resilient. He is very intelligent and will adapt to his recovery. I am so sorry for all of you going through this with him. You have done a great job adapting his environment for his best recovery. He is a handsome boy and in good hands.

My 22yr old AG congo has been falling off her perch at night when she's sleeping. What suggestions do you have that can help me prevent her from this. I dont want her getting hurt

OMGosh my friend showed her once and the next day.... hello!! Got it sussed out 705CC7AD-9C06-4E0A-9752-8D78A163763B.MOV

Haha! Funny little tantrum! He's adorable! Poor little dude looks likes hes recovering well

LOL She's smarter than me! Sometimes I struggle with those snapping containers... They incredibly smart.

Poor Ollie! It is so sad to see them just sitting there when they are usually so active. The good news is it will pass! When Timber was at his lowest point healthwise, it was heart wrenching to see him huddled on the towel in the floor of the hospital cage. The recovery is worth the downtime, though Ollie might not agree with the cone of shame

I’m leaning towards restricting membership, okayed by admins. This is getting difficult

Question... if you constantly get them used to new things when they are young will they still find it stressful to accept new things like new toys and perches as they age?? So far If I have something new, Tali can't wait to get ahold of it to investigate it, see what she can do to it... throw it, chew it up, hang off it, carry it around lol... Should I keep giving her all sort of new things while she's young to avoid issues in the years to come? Or does it not really make a difference?

My grey readily eats Harrison's High Potency pellets so I provide them for her at all times. You can offer vegetables in various ways, sometimes they will eat one cooked and another one raw, or maybe one in little strips and another one mashed, experiment with various ones to see which she may prefer. Some make chop which is different kinds of vegetables with the addition of some grains and or rice and beans to make a mixture that when they eat one thing out of it they are actually getting some of the more beneficial portions, it is chopped up and mixed all together. Please do read thru various threads here for lots of ideas of what you can offer her but yes an all seed diet is very unhealthy, do not be discouraged if she doesn't eat her vegetables at first, sometimes it takes a while if they haven't had them in a long while but one day she might actually eat some and find she enjoys it.

Thank You for that info.. Also since I unexpectedly inherited her. I have been having a hard time getting her to eat veggies Ive tried and retried different kinds of recommended safe for her to eat but she's really picky. Also Im unsure what the best brand of pellets I should get her. The huge container of pellets that came along with her is about gone and I dont even know the brand name or what they are made from, but they smell fruity. I sure would appreciate any helpful knowledge I am surely lacking here...Im a newbie to the avian world..I was told a seed diet is unhealthy for her but she refuses to eat much else..Im open for ideas and advice I want to learn how to take good care of her.

Sukei has been home for almost a year, and I'm still fighting to get his "Passport" released" I'm kevinD, sorry, I quit trying to do different logins. For new users, if it were not for this site, and the info I got here Sukei would be dead in a Middle Eastern Country. He is here now. He was a victim of black operations in Africa, he was almost dead when I got him. Long story short, this site and Talon, helped give me the info to get him to the US. We broke a few rules on the way and should have bribed some folks a little bit more, but this was not to make money, it was to save a Grey. While I share in the international laws banning the imports of illegal grays, I also support those that are rescuing a Grey. There needs to be a law that supports rescue. Two edged sword, if you do that you encourage black market birds. I dont pretend to know all the answers to this..... All I know is I rescued Sukei. He sould be treated like a USA domesticated Grey. I digress.. By the way, thanks to Talon, Sukei is the guy you see in the left top corner of your screen.

This is an amazing story. Would like to know more about all the steps you had to take in order to bring Sukei home.

Thank you

There are many reasons for this occurring including lack of calcium and metal toxicity, we are not vets here so my best guess is have her seen by an avian vet but in the meantime place her perches low and pad the bottom. Please let us know what you find out and I hope she is going to be fine.

Yes he is, would love to see more of him if you could manage that.

He's a handsome boy.

I run 18 of these IPB websites, and none have this problem. I'm trying to figure out what the correlation is, I've checked everything imaginable. The only variable is the dns servers, they are controlled by another entity, but I digress. Again my last option is to restrict sign ups, but that is up to Talon. Just let me know. I'm sorry I cant do more

Thanks for the reply. Yes the biting issue could be a mix of both. That's why i am rescheduling my time according to Rockey now. I am trying the give him time everyday. Hope he gets better. He has been quite friendly since yesterday. Trying to give him more time everyday out of his cage.

Oh no, poor sweet thing. I just want to go over there and cuddle the heck out of him. Hope he heals quickly and that he's back to being his old self very soon.

Poor baby 😥

Here is Ollie’s modified cage. The woos is covered with soft towels and soft perches arranged for him to rest against. I baby sat him today, he just s sits and rests his beak on the perch. I fed him apple and brought his water bowl over for him to drink. He’s very quiet abs sleeps a lot...probably the meds...

OMGosh poor Ollie! Im interested to see pictures of him in a cone of shame and with his new ramp. I hope he recovers well, and quickly! Gosh if anything happened to Tali I would be an absolute mess!

Suggestion: Go to Walmart....they sell "Aloe Vera Juice". Spray your baby twice a week ( especially in winter when the air inside is dry)