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Yes, katana600 and Miss Gilbert are good examples. They've taken 7 years to get used to each other, and their situation was quite bad at the start. Gilbert was a very fearful, untrusting birdy when she first arrived in her new home 7 years ago. They are a good example of what we mean by "grey time". Katana600 decided they were going to let Gilbert make all the decisions as far as how fast they moved, although there were a few times there was a chance to take a leap forward which sometimes paid off, and sometimes not. Through it all we were here to guide and encourage them and they're both quite content, I think, in their relationship now, although there's always room for improvement. We can be here for you as well if you'll let us to encourage you along the way. Maybe it would be a good idea to keep a journal of how you're doing so that you can look back and see the improvements. At least keep a video journal. This video is a big improvement over your last one. Keep up the good work.

I’m two months into have my 6 month old timneh grey home with me! I’ve done plenty of research on owning a grey and understand how stubborn they can be. My poor girl is afraid of almost everything. Including water.. Any tips, advice or suggestions on getting her used to water for bath time would be much appreciated

Hello all - just posted a little introduction thread in the new members section and wanted to hop over here to give the full details on what Maxi has been through in the 18/20 years she’s been around. I am not new to parrots and have worked with them over the years, however I’m very new to AG’s, especially having one in my home so any feedback, tips, etc. would be greatly appreciated. So from what I’ve been told by the woman who owned Maxi, she started out as a hand fed chick purchased from Petco back in the day. She was playful for about a year or so until she started testing her limits. This led to the owner being bitten and created a fear of the bird beak. She has been in the same cage ever since literally only being let out twice in that 17 time frame, one of those times being an accident and led to Maxi living under a couch for several days. As soon as she came here, her cage door was open and only being closed when we left the house. She slowly started coming out and climbing on the door, this further led to her exploring the unused play stand on top of the cage, however she had no clue how to get back in the cage once up there and was stuck for two days on top because she does not allow handleing and is terrified of towels. She had her food and water up there with her, but she eventually figured out how to menuver on the outside of her cage. She now spends a considerable time on top of her cage and in her cage, it’s her choice. Her diet has been completely hanged from a seed/nut diet to veggies, fruits, nuts, pellets, and other random foods she may get from us. She seems very happy now and making progress. However, the only time she will tolerate touch is when she starts doing her little mating dance and begins panting and squeezing, if she is doing this she will let you scratch the back of her neck for what seems like forever but His doesn’t feel right because the more you scratch her neck the more worked up she gets and it doesn’t feel fair for her to get all worked up, but it’s the only way she allows you to touch her, she will even hold your finger and at one point stepped onto my hand but moved as soon as I moved my hand. So that’s where we are right now, any tips or other information you guys might seem useful?

Hello guys It’s been 2months and 17 days i guess and that’s how my parrot behaves : what do you think guys? P.S : i asked a vet and he told me you can’t tame him to be a pet because he’s completely wild and might have been abused in the past .

Oh my, she was adorable. I am so sorry for your loss. This is heartbreaking..😥

I am so sorry to read this.

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My prayers and love are with you...you did more than anyone could ask....

Unfortunately Miss Aura passed away yesterday. she went in for further testing and died in the vets office. They are suspecting she wouldn’t have made it through the week & that she was born with some kind of disease causing her to fill up with this fluid. My heart is so broken and heavy today. 💔 I did everything I could to save my baby.

Sorry, not able to get another phot through, I’ll post one soon.

So, I brought this up in my initial post. The only time she will put a foot on me is when she is being “inappropriate” and I am trying to discourage the mating behavior as much as possible but here is a picture of her holding my finger during one of these times she’s shown mating bahavior.

Thank you! I appreciate you saying that. This is my first parrot that I personally have adopted and she is my only. I’ve worked for years with parrots in captivity though, which is where my knowledge comes from. As for photos, I’ll find a few and post them up for you guys! I am guessing that she will just take her time in stepping up, which worries me but we will hopefully get through it sooner rather than later.

Thanks for the advice! Unfortunately I’ve not found anything that she goes absolutely nuts for. Her favorite foods are pistachios and peanuts, in that order. I do use those as treats BUT something I’ve noticed is that she will not go out of her way to get them, especially if it means doing something she is not comfortable with. She will definitely wait me out on that front. She may have that one treat that she goes crazy for that I haven’t found yet. She was never given a varied diet and only ever ate a nut and seed mix from a jug. So we’re experimenting with new foods. Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it.

Hi, I have a feeling you are quite knowledgeable about parrots; and you have already been given oodles of advise. So, I look forward to hearing more about your grey and your other parrots/birds. So please post more about your flock. Pictures are always appreciated. (hint, hint)

Erfan, you have the best of the best....

A friend sliced a pool noodle to fit the top of her doors to prevent them closing on little fingers, I wonder if this is something you could put on the top of open cupboard doors for a landing place and your grey could chew on that perhaps. Also, Home Depot carries a vinyl flooring called Allure which could be fitted over the plywood to make cleanup a little easier and it has a really hard backing on it which might withstand attempts to chew it. It comes in 6 inch strips and is easy to handle.

I've missed some of your earlier videos. He looks relaxed even though his vocalizations seem a little loud. Your low soothing voice and consistent behavior will be the key to helping him adapt to your affection. My companion Miss Gilbert came from a sketchy background with many new homes and I made a decision to meet her on her own terms. It is amazing how intelligent they are and it does take time. It has been seven years for us and while I long to have her think of me as her friend, I accept that she is not going to be a hand's on "buddy". I accept her terms and accept her "grey time" and it is worth the patience and time we have invested in each other.

He looks much more comfortable to me as well. Sometime you want to go back and look at your old videos so you can see the change in his body language for yourself. When you live it everyday, you don't always see the minor improvements that are occurring.

My advice would be to wear earplugs and act like that behavior doesn't startle/bother you. Act normally around the grey until they accept your routine around them.

I think it's a big improvement over the last video you posted. At least he's not screaming and clinging to the far wall of the cage to get away from you. He even did a little stretch in front of you. That's a sign he's getting more comfortable with you. What happens if you get a tiny bit closer to the cage? Like Jayd said, it could be years before he is acting friendly towards you, but you're making progress as far as having him not be terrified of you.

Erfan , we've all told you it takes time, Our Joe took almost to years to start acting friendly and another 2 years to kind of being friendly...You have to be in there for the long haul....r

So sorry prayers for the sweet baby.....What does the vet say?

Now I do need to confess something, about 2014-ish I adopted a cockatiel. He's been alternately a joy and a pain (depending on his mood) and is very adept at human-training. Anyhow, my Lord and Commander, has recently started learning that the food humans eat can be pretty yummy. He is always more interested in the food I am physically eating instead of his own personal portion on his cage top. Of course I shamelessly exploit this by making meals that are both human and parrot friendly and have been having some unprecedented successes. Matters came to a head one morning when I came out to eat my dinner and found him perched on the edge of my bowl, beak deep in my soup. But that's another story. So....whilst combing through Pintrest I came upon a new recipe that sounded interesting and yummy: Congee (or jook) which is a Chinese rice porridge. Basically it is a cup of rice cooked in 10 cups of water and with some sort of meaty bone, garlic and a piece of ginger over a long period (90 minutes on stove top but I cooked mine 8 hours on low heat in the slow cooker). I'm in love with this dish! So easy, cheap, delicious and endlessly customize-able. It has become my go-to after third shift dinner (aka daywalker's breakfast). Where has this been all my life! My Lord was initially skeptical about my meal but did try it. He LOVED it and I again ended up fending off a beak on a mission. Now, I wasn't able to find any definitive information regarding the suitability of the dish (in its most basic form, the rice, water, and a bone-in chicken breast...no garlic or ginger) for parrots. What is the opinion on continuing to provide this with other parrot healthy vegetable and grain and seed additions for my benevolent tyrant?

Good rule of thumb is to end an interaction on a positive note. And if the entire interaction has been positive, end it before you want to and before the parrot ends it. I found that working with my cockatiel became significantly easier when I was ending some trick training or head scritches before he was done with them.

The predictability of a Grey is unpredictable.

Yay!!! Keep on truckin'...It's slow but you are getting there and doing everything right. Furthermore, you have made a new friend in Aura!

Thanks so much!!! Everyone has been so helpful. She destroyed a cardboard box last night and all for some head scratches today

Sometimes when introducing new toys it helps if you hold the toy at a distance and show the bird how much fun it is. Get excited about it, show them all the colours and materials and talk about it excitedly. Sometimes the curiosity overcomes the fear and the bird shows a bit more interest. Typically if you have something your grey will want to know what it is.... so use this to your advantage when offering new toys. I do similar with Alfie whenever I show him new toys and also when I'm bringing something into the house he might not like. For a while he was scared of the washing basket- I have to carry it past his cage to take laundry to the washing machine and he'd get a bit freaked out about it. So I would cheerfully walk into the room with the basket and explain what it was and where I was going. I would also make a 'ooo' noise to sound excited about it. I do the same kind of noise whenever I introduce something new or 'scary' to him. As a result, when he's looking at something new and working out whether or not he likes it he often goes "oooo!". A few weeks back we had a load of snow and I set him on the window ledge so he could look at it. He stomped up and down in front of the window, eyes pinning, going "ooo!" "oooo!" because he was checking out the changes outside and wasn't sure to make of everything being white. It's always a good idea to start with new items from a distance, as others have mentioned. Watch the reaction of your bird and slowly move it closer. Depending on the bird, this could be done over hours, days or even weeks. Eventually you can get to the point where the toy is hanging near the cage, then on the cage and finally in the cage. Always move at your birds pace. Some are more change adverse than others. They do eventually come round and realise that the shiny new toy ISN'T out to get them!! Bath times... well, that's a whole different ball game. There is a thread somewhere on these forums about bathing parrots... if I find it again I'll post a link but I remember it being quite helpful. Alfie tries to bath in his water bowl, which unsurprisingly doesn't work so well (his butt doesn't fit!). He will tolerate a spray bath for most part- so long as I let him bite the nozzle of the spray bottle a few times so he can show it who's boss. I did buy him a bird bath that hangs inside the cage but he never learned to step inside it. He would sit on the edge and drink from it but would revert back to his regular water bowl when trying to take a bath.... even though the actual bird bath was much larger and big enough for him to walk into. Some birds prefer being sprayed, some prefer a dish of water where they can bathe themselves, some like showers, some like sinks.... it might take a little while to find out what your grey likes best (or will tolerate...) but do persevere with it because regular baths are important... however much they might grumble about them!

Fantastic toy, keeps them busy Cheap, easy too clean, Cheap..[Remove staples, tape and all glue]

Jayd mentioned a cardboard box earlier. Cardboard is Timber's favorite thing (except his bells). He doesn't care much for wood, but loves shredding cardboard. That's definitely worth a try. She's beautiful

Are you in for a surprise, Wait and keep your eye's and ears open...Not like any other pet you ever had....

Thanks haha I’ve had a few birds but my first grey .. like a new mom over worrying about doing it all right haha

The two of you are doing GREAT!

Ahhh! Thank you. I ended up using that toy as it was the only one she wasn’t afraid of thanks for the heads up.

What a good looking Tag.. Thank you, Remember Greys take time...I'd like to point out, you might want to get a larger Bell, they can rip out the small clanker and swallow it...Try some wood chew toys for her...

She’s happy as can be with her peppers!! Haha ❤️ Thanks everyone for the tips I’ll experiment and see how things go.

Greetings and thank you. Luvparrots Has both a Tag and a Cag, She can really help you...

Thanks I’ll try introducing the toys she was scared of slowly. I want to get her some new toys for when we’re not at home :-)

Hello and welcome! Two months isn't long in "grey time." Toys and new things often need to be introduced slowly. Think hanging/setting the toy at a distance from the cage, move it a little closer every couple of days, and finally into the cage. I have a Timneh also. I don't think, from what I've read, that they are more fearful than the CAG's. I have to introduce any new thing to Timber slowly and over time.

She's ok, things take time..Joe our 12 year old is the same way, put one toy at s time and leave it. Luvparrots has a Timmy, check her out....Have you tried a card board box for her to chew on?

Welcome, Whats your fids name? I've had old old birds that never liked bathing..lol..Don't worry about it, get a spray bottle, room temp and have fun..[no drafts] Suggestion, Walmart has "Aloe Juice" spray it twice a week....

May your lives be enriched for years & years, filled with much love & companionship. Gilbert is such a handsome guy & it's obvious he has tons of personality.

Hi, hasn't been going very well the last two weeks...Jay's been on heavy dosage of Lasix for his CHF, kidneys and cellulitis and last week his output has decreased over half the previous amounts. His strength has decreased as well as his appetite....he has also been getting more forgetful and his last post took almost eight hours for him to complete....With his increase in pain levels, I think it may be hospital time again soon.