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If Jay is quiet too long, Joe will call out "Papa, are you okay?" and then fly over to Jay's shoulder and stay there until he wakes up, kissing his cheek and cooing softly until Jay wakes up.....(SWEET!)

Well, the Brutus kind of has a point: I was moping around and depressed until I got my Grey. Hard to be depressed when you have a Grey!

Hello! We've had a couple more visits with Bella. She seems to be gaining more trust in me specifically. I got kissed quite a few times lol. One thing we'll have to work is hand/arm training. She is a shoulder bird for sure...which isn't a big problem for me but when the niece and nephew are over I'd like for her to stay on their hand or arm. I wouldn't want the initial "freak out" from either of them.

Lovely bird, do look into bird proofing your home. No nonstick cookware, not pots of hot liquid without lids, no candle burning and don't spray household products in her area. Move slowly talk to her often, sing and enjoy the new world she will slowly open the door to for you.

We all need a little show of empathy from time to time (:> better than the alternative bite on the cheek to wake us up.

Yes please-pics!!

Scary and they can hurt themselves falling so do get her to the Vet for some simple bloodwork, you are right to ask questions. Good job!

Harry my Umbie Too who now lives elsewhere enjoyed a spoon as well. After eating it could be used on the cage bars to make "music".

I figured out what is happening. Tyler, the 15-year-old has been moping around and acting depressed. The other day he was crying and feeling sorry for himself when we were talking to him and Brutus flew over to him and reached out his foot and touched his arm. Brutus hates to see people upset or sick. Twice when Dave was sick Brutus stayed with him until he got better by standing on his body as he lay in bed. It was so touching. He just wants Tyler to feel better and he cannot understand why he is so down-in-the-dumps. Tyler is seeing a therapist, but he is a teenager... His father and I will do anything for him but he cannot see it right now. Brutus flies at Tyler in an attempt to correct his mental state. Clear as day for me now. I love Brutus so much!

Thanks chezron.......Fantastic...

Looks good..In our Joe's case, we can't bring out the floor fan..lol

Hi, thank you, don't alienate them, At ten, Brutus is near do for a "Change in life". As a Gray ages, they for lack of a better word, Contemplate their life more, they become wiser, son gray this is the breading age. Just as you saw a change at 1 year and 2 years old they go through this stage and finely the last stage when they just kick back and are quiet and self absorbent...You have always been a good Parront...

Good Evening All, Apologies if i have posted this in the wrong forum but i wonder if you can provide some advice before i book my grey into the vets. I have a grey around 10 years olds and recently she has started falling from her perchs not all the time but sometimes she seems to stumble then falls to the bottom of her cage, i check her over well i try to but she quickly climbs back onto her perch whistleing away telling me to leave her alone. I have not had her long i had her passed to me by a family member who was not able to look after her anymore, i have spoken to them ad they say she used to do it but very rarly but im really concerned she is going to hurt herself. I have seen her fall between 2/3 times she is still very livly and very alert to her surroundings her food has not been changed and still remains on the same food she has always been, she has fruit daily but most of it ent up at the bottom of her cage as she dose not like them but really enjoys apples and grapes - non seed. im just wondering if any of you people have had simular issues like above that has been easly resolved. i am ooking at booking her into the avian vet asap just as a precation Thank you all in advance

Hello all, thanks very much for all your feedback. my parrot is booked into see the avian vet this Friday as that’s the only date they have available. As for the calcium I do add a pinch of supliment to her food calcium/vitamins at lest one a week when her food is changed. I have been advised to try her on some Harrison high potency pellets as well as her low sunflower seed mix. We noticed she was seems to be falling more when we had fresh flowers in the same room as her so I lowered all her perches for the time being she really wasn’t happy and also removed the fresh flowers from the room since then she has not fell fell so hopefully we may have found the cause possabily touch wood however I think it’s still best to see the vet just to be safe. They also mentioned it could be possible that her wings have been clipped but I haven’t had these done but the previous owner could have but I have noticed she don’t try and fly much when she is out of the cage. If she has had her wings clipped will these grow back ? Could this be causeing her to fall off her perches as she seems to just loose her balance.

We had both our birds sexed ( DNA) and we are proud owners of2 baby boys 😛

Neoow, that is exactly what Timber would do, throw it so I could "fetch." That's one of his favorite games

I have heard that lack of calcium can cause greys to be prone to falling off their perch, it is a good idea to have her checked out as soon as possible to see what is going on. I hope it is something that can be easily corrected and be sure to come back and let us know what is found out.

Yes, she has done it for years and often prefers it to a plate! Thank you Talon for the wonderful picture. Try it with your Zons...When I give her a plastic spoon, she recycles it by chewing it up after she is done...hahahahaa....

Oh wow, that's amazing. I think Alfie would probably just throw the spoon at my head. Or maybe throw it across the room and expect me to fetch it for him so he can do it again.

Neat pic! Seriously though, is this a common occurrence or did you just get a good picture? Timber would be throwing the spoon at me...

I will when I get it. I know it's one with plexiglass and bars. From what I remember, it's definitely tall enough and has a perch in it.

She is coming with a travel cage. Will that be alright for her to sleep in?

If you're worried the family room will be too noisy for sleep you can always put a small sleep cage in another room where she can get 10-12 hours of quiet dark time for sleep.

Thanks! Her cage is definitely going in the family room first.

Maggie, I know a little of what you are experiencing, watching Jay struggle for each breath. Jay, use you strength for breathing.. Love and prayers. Howardine

I couldn’t agree more, they hate being isolated from the family, that could cause plucking, so be careful with that. Better to keep her in her cage in the family room to start so she gets used to the family and sounds of the home.

Prayers for you both. Be strong Jayd, we need you here more than you need us..love to you both. ❤️

How beautiful ..Brought tears to our eyes...love you..

We are bringing her home in May with visits in between. I take 2 weeks off every May to open our pool and get the yard summer ready. I figure that would be perfect for her to come home to lots of attention and socialization. Her current owners are friends of ours and are just a few miles away...luckily.

If she's been clipped a long time she might be like my Dorian. I let his wings grow out but he doesn't know what they're for. He's dependent on mom taxi to take him everywhere, unless he gets startled off his perch and he goes flying. I hope they let your girl fledge before they clipped. She is a beautiful grey. How long until you bing her home for good?

What a pretty girl!

Nice looking CAG. Congratulations on your new friend. Looking forward to learning more about the two of you.

Is she flighted?

Thank you my friend.. Keep posting...

Thanks. About the other pets, well the dogs and cat...I don't plan on introducing them right off. Luckily they are all "older" and have been with us since they were weaned. Agree with you 100% about washing hands after handling the snake and lizard. It's been a practice in our house for 12 years of owning reptiles, specifically large breed pythons.

Thanks so much! Our plan is to have a few stands placed in the family room, dining room, bedroom, bathroom and sun room to have her out with us as much as possible. I kind of want her room to be mainly for security and sleep. Is this good or bad?

We chickened out. He was freaking out because he couldn't come in, so he flew in and totally behaved himself. I am such a softie.

Greetings and welcome to the Grey Lounge... ....including her baggage which at this point you really don't know how much baggage she has. Re-homing for a Grey is extremely life-changing. You almost have to start from anew. I praise you for your efforts. A Grey is usually the head of the group or flock. They don't have an alpha male but they do have a leader of each group and each group consists of one or more families. With your large group, this could pose an identity problem so I don't like to see a Grey in a room by themselves. This could potentially cause social and psychological problems so I would recommend if you are going to put Bella in a room by herself, you might consider getting her a female partner. A possible problem that you need to consider is that each of your pets can be deadly to a Grey but with your experience, I don't see any problems. When you bring her home, start treating her the same as you would later on...just don't push her, just be a little slower and more forgiving. If she has her own room, leave the cage door open 24/7...no problem. Of all the parrots, our beloved Greys have the most psychological and social problems. Some Greys are extremely social and others can be antisocial. If she is in her own room, I would suggest a radio or TV. Under the right conditions, they can intermingle with other pets. You have to remember, after touching or holding the Tegu and python, you need to wash and change clothing etc. before handling your Grey to prevent cross-contamination. Thanks and welcome...Jayd

We added a curtain so Tyler can eat in peace. Do you think this curtain will alienate him? I hope not.

This isn't unusual, it's possible he feels Tyler is from another flock and intruding. How old is Brutus? It could be just a "Grays change of life" grays flock in large comunitys but small family groups..His Group might have reached it;s limit...If this is whats happening, the best thing to do is ignore it.... Grey's family lives are a lot different than other parrots. A normal parrot weans and kicks out their chicks of the nest and starts over. A Grey family will have a couple chicks and train them to be part of the original community. They will stay together until they find a mate. At that time, the newly mated Greys will leave home and become part of the same community. An ideal captive home family unit would be to have the parents and their mated offspring in your living room. Most parrots are invaders and leave their family units for areas unknown and start a new family with their new flock. A Grey has more human characteristics than most may realize.

It is so weird, just this morning Tyler was rubbing Brutus' beak with no problem (I wasn't there). This aggressive behavior seems to happen at night. What is different is we are all sitting together. Brutus may be thinking Tyler is competition or something. My boyfriend, Dave, he loves though! Dave and I are always hugging and smooching and Brutus has no problem with it. So this makes no sense. For peace's sake, we are installing a temporary tension rod and curtain panels between the kitchen/office (where they are) and the living room (where we eat dinner). Problem is Brutus will probably just hop down on the floor and stroll in. Oh well, we will cross that bridge when we come to it. Maybe tension rods on the floor and the ceiling with curtain panel threaded in both. My boyfriend's son, Tyler, is 6 feet one inch tall, and it seemed to happen overnight, so he is no small kid. Last night Brutus probably flew at Tyler 5-6 times. Poor Tyler. He seems to take it in stride though.

This sounds like the exact behavior we get from our Caique - Toby. He likes some people and then 'small' people are on his shit list and marked for destruction. Toby will fly at them with full fury and evil in his eyes. I'm not sure if this behavior is prevalent in Greys but it's sure what it sounds like. Greycie exhibits a similar behavior towards Toby because she cant stand him. Fly straight at him and try her best to knock him off his perch or grab him and beat the feathers off of him. It would be nice if you could possibly get a video of the behavior. How to curb the behavior and allow Brutus to begin to accept the the son is beyond me. I would definitely be grooming the son not to take it personally and to see if there is some way he can interact with Brutus safely outside the bubble of Brutus' favorite flock mates. If the son starts to resent Brutus you've got bigger problems.

OMG. Way too much to have on your plate right now. I truly hope you can find some time to take care of YOU.

I am very sorry! Please take care of yourself. The birds and we need you.

I am pleased to announce (without her permission) that Acappella is the Moderator of our new sister room here! It was her idea that sparked this room...so like it or not .....that makes her the moderator!!! I know you will all be as happy with this new room! I know she will keep a close eye on it as needed. Welcome to our team!

Congratulations to Marguerite on becoming a new mod and what a fantastic room.

Surprise & Congratulations! That thread really is a beautiful thing.

Letss hope she logs on and finds out soon...lol!

Congratulations!