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The reason I ask Sukie's age is because a Grey will go through developmental stages at different ages, Unfortunately, when the hit around 40, they go into what I call the age of contemplation. They basically stop talking, spend a lot of time just perched, and spend a lot of time what I call as contemplating their navel. They are also famous to just abruptly change their normal behavior, such as: Who's my mate?, Can I bite you?, I no longer eating what you gave me yesterday!, and I don't care about my behavior for the last year and a half! It is different today! In all the parrots who have passed through our doors and who we have worked with, the Grey socially and psychologically, is more different than any other species. They are more human-like with life-cycle signs such as youth, puberty, maturation, and old age. A Grey, at the drop of a hat, can literally change from black to white and vice-versa and forget all previous behaviors. Biting is a trait they learn from humans. It is a rapid action for attention. In the wild, they don't bite. In captivity, we take such good care of them, they have little options left to be themselves with their wild instincts. We must remember, as opposite to other parrots, when a Grey is fledged, they are not kicked out and forced to leave. They stay with their family group and help out until they are ready to mate, at which time they bring their hen to the existing family group. A Grey's family consists of generations.

He is only 5 give or take a few months.

Does he sense a sadness or grief? Just your mood or state of mind he can feel. It may make him feel unsure and he’s lashing out at that perhaps? Just a wild guess. Also, spring is around the corner and my parrots are ALL acting up..🤪

Under normal circumstances, all the posted advice is applicable, but nothing has changed, this just started abruptly. Nothing has changed in the last year and a half. I dunno. Will wait it out, cant last forever.

FYI, a smorgasbord: Cut the tip off and lightly boil the carrot it beings out the nutrients... Feed less spinach than other green leafy veggies, it has a lot of natural salt,,,If you feed pasta or rice, rinse before serving,,, Raw pasta and raw veggies pasta are okay for our fids...Yogurt is OK for our fids, it's missing one of the enzymes found in dairy...Low fat milk as in the small amount they receive when we share our cereal is okay, in Moderation...Moderation and Acclamation, is the cure and prophylactic to a healthy Parrot...If everything you feed your parrot follows the rules of moderation and acclimation, you'll have one healthy bird. Moderation means how much initially. Acclamation means how much over the life of your bird. We all feed our fids too much...we need to reduce the amount of food and treats we feed them. Just as important is the total amount of any one thing we feed our fids over their lifetime. Example: that small amount of salted chip we slip them each year will not hurt them at the time. But the amount of salt accumulated over a lifetime can kill them. To be continued:

What's in your food bowl? We told told you what we feed our fids, what do you feed yours? pellets? What kind? What else Smash, Clop? mash? Seed? Baby food? Share,

it is long and huge.......but it is mainly about the occasional bite. What if you got a guy that bites everyone and everything...... there is a question. And Sukie is so well treated there is no excuse for it.....he gets baths, and has his own humidifier and every kind of food there is, apples, corn on the cob, the high dollar multivitamin stuff, raw peanuts, he gets taken everywhere he wants to go, the wife spoils him rotten. What do you do with that?

Great diet, have you tried Cook cauliflower?

Timber is extremely picky. You may remember my experiments and failures with every pellet made. After Timber's seizure issues and his weight loss, what is in his bowl is pretty much whatever he will eat. Daily, he gets nutriberries, quality seed mix, a piece of avicake. In his "people" food bowl, he has mashed sweet potato, peas, pinto beans, hamburger, mac and cheese, and cooked Higgins rice mix. He has sweet peas on a skewer, and usually has corn on the cob or an artichoke to mess with. He eats dinner with us, whatever he can (or will) eat safely. He usually has a small (maybe 1/16th slice) of toast with a little peanut butter at breakfast time. I'd love to improve his diet a bit, but he won't eat birdy bread or any chop I've tried (or pellets or any other vegetables etc. etc. etc.). He gets a chicken wing bone every week (sometimes he will eat it, sometimes not) and a piece of boiled egg fairly often. He eats a bite of banana with dad occasionally, but really isn't a fruit eater. As a treat (like most of his diet isn't already a treat) I give him a cashew, an almond, and a couple of peanuts in the evening. Oh, I almost forgot the cheese... He gets a very small piece of sharp cheddar cheese a couple of times a week. I'm sure there are other things I'm forgetting, but those are the staples!

Jealousy Not of another bird, but of another person [people}...This happens, your fid see's you paying attention to another and you get a swift bite...How old is your Sukie ?

I will when I get it. I know it's one with plexiglass and bars. From what I remember, it's definitely tall enough and has a perch in it.

Can you post a picture or give dimensions, or both lol?

In the training room there's a thread called Body Language Most Commonly Seen, or something close to that. A bite is often their last resort after other signals he's sent you have been ignored. See if you're missing signals that he doesn't want interaction at the moment. If it's a time when you need to touch him, like you're going out and you need to put him in his cage, try the compromise Dorian and I have worked out. If he's in a pissy mood and I need him to step up, and I don't particularly feel like getting bit (lol), I get him to step up onto a perch and transfer him that way. I got him used to the perch laying around him, then rolled it towards him, then let him step onto it on the desk, then picked it up a tiny bit and put it back down . . . You get the picture. Now I can use it to put him back in his cage, move him off his playstand etc. . . I let him beat up on the perch when he's moved - it's pretty cute.

She is coming with a travel cage. Will that be alright for her to sleep in?

Hi , of course I’m still at growling phase , but i read somewhere that if you are at the phase that your parrot wants to be with you but he bites you , when he does that juat leave the room quickly , and then try again and if he does again leave the room quickly again , that way , he will understand, that when he bites the only thing he gets is loneliness , so he won’t do it again . but note that the method , which I mentioned , is for parrots which they don’t growl or are not fully wild because if you do that with a wild parrot the result is exactly opposite, because he thinks : well I don’t want him be around me and whenever I bite him he leaves the room so it’s a good way to keep him away , and he keeps doing it. I hope it helps you.

Are you saying Sukie bites everyone he comes into contact with? I say you either learn to read his body language better or take it.

This is a work in progress and will take time, you do have to feed and give water to him so being close is unavoidable but do so slowly and talk softly as you do it. Once you have done the necessary things then back off to where he will settle down some and carry on a conversation with him in a gently voice. I know this seems like it is taking forever but grey time is slow and trust must be earned, its never rushed or it will backfire on you. Just take it slow and easy and soon you will be able to do things for him without the growling.

Hello Rowland and welcome to our family. You have been given great advice and I commend you for researching before bringing a grey into your life and thank you for giving her a new forever home. I won't add much more but am glad to hear you will leave her flighted, she is beautiful and I know you can't wait to bring her home.

Maggie, I know a little of what you are experiencing, watching Jay struggle for each breath. Jay, use you strength for breathing.. Love and prayers. Howardine

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