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We love Einstein too. We watch his Scary Birdy Ghost stories every year around halloween.

Hi, I have actually been a member here for awhile, but havent been on the forum in a long time. I have a seven year old Timneh Grey named Breezy. He is primarily bonded to me, but he likes my husband as well. Hoping to keep learning about Greys here.

This chart just about sums everything up!

😥 Jayd is doing poorly... He asked me to write this,...I told him it was not necessary but Jayd's emotions are strong. Judy, Luvparrots, Talon, Ray, SRSeedBurner, and all the Grey Forum members...I am sorry if I offended any of you. Please forgive me. Love, Jayd

Jay has always been a very important part of this family and I owe a lot for his friendship and support over the years. His heart was always in the right place and some times his post were misinterpreted, but they were always in the best interest of our loved fids. His friendship has always been very important to me as each and every member of this forum is.

Prayers from all of us here at Greyforums ❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

The purpose of this forum (in my opinion) is to share our triumphs AND our sorrows. Most of the forum members have furbabies as well as fids. There is no reason why you should not share your loss with like-minded people. As for me, thinking of the ones I lost brings fond memories. I firmly believe I will see all my loved ones when I cross into eternity (human and nonhuman), so I see it as a temporary parting, not a forever goodbye.

Very cute!😋

A cat, dog or a parrot can get under your skin and be a big part of your life. When they are gone there is a big empty spot that you can`t fill. Sorry for your loss. Ray

No guilt, Just normal behavior. So what`s the problem ???

Funny, but I sorta figure parrots, in general, feel no regret, no guilt. Your home is their kingdom -- anything you own may become their chew toy. They are one of the rare pets that we forgive completely for pooping on our furniture, floors and even on us when shoulder riding. And when shoulder riding, we even overlook that they chew up our clothes while we're wearing them!!! Mine can remove a shirt label so quickly you don't even realize he did it -- he can chew through enough of my shirt that I don't even notice that either, yannoe, until I feel a slight breeze!!! lol 🥴

I see no guilt in that Tiel, none must be a set up.

She's always been a girly girl kind of a CAG. Here her is enjoying some evening time turning our brains into mush in front of the idiot box. Iposted this a year or so ago but can't find it so re-posting:

Yes! especially when you have worked for months to get them to trust you enough to get on your arm. I'll never forget the first time Timber dropped his head, pushed his beak against my stomach and let me scritch his head. It took so long to get there, and I'll never forget that day.

Folks, I'm going to give you a quick synopsis of where things stand with the board, some of it you will understand, and some of you wont depending on who you are and what your technical level is for these kind of things. These are the objective facts. I will give subjective later. 1. And foremost the name greyforums.net is not owned by ANYONE here. 2. The owner of the .net name is a really nice guy that has nothing to do with this place anymore beyond being the owner of the .net name. 3. I cleaned up the whole mess and made the database and forums work again without spyware and viruses because you guys helped me save Sukei. (And Im not looking for a thank you, just putting out facts for a determination after) 4. The database contains YEARS of experience and knowledge of members past and present, those here now and those that have passed on before us. 5. Participation has slowed to a crawl. This has everyone dealing with the site considering closing it. 6. The data on this site is INVALUABLE for our grey friends. Now with these facts in hand I can offer every tech deal there is , video posting, song boards, anything you have on your favorite sites, I can duplicate, and make it work better. Video, audio streaming anything to bring the level of participation back up here. The real question is ......and not so much for me, but for Talon, do you want to keep it going.. how important is it to you your Greys and Talon that has kept it going for all these years. Its time to consider what you have, and what you stand to loose, talk to her, let her know how you feel.

The dust is the worst for me! Wiping down my grey's cage is a burden. He is constantly chasing and nipping at my cleaning cloth (and fingers!) -- he thinks cage wipe downs are a game. For a thorough wipe-down (and esp a real cage cleaning) -- he has to be caged elsewhere for a moment. He also dislikes newspaper removals -- lunges and grabs at them! Greys are real stinkers! lol

Same here. I try to hit the wet stuff as soon after it hits as possible. I am always amazed at the amount of dry crud surrounding the cage each evening though. For a bird who only weighs about 1/2 pound and doesn't seem to eat that much, where do all these bits and pieces come from? It's a puzzle

I sometimes deliberately give peanuts, nut butters and some seed to my parrot purely for the 'fats' in them. My gut says they need this to maintain a healthy weight. I have a whole-foods attitude. I admit, my parrots diet is largely fresh fruit, veg, and some rice (or whole-wheat pasta). All on low-fat end of the fats spectrum. Should I add olive oil or something to this fresh veg/rice mix??? I don't want to cause fatty liver disease by adding too much oil, but my parrot could happily live on this fresh mix alone. I do realize there is limited amount of fat in most fresh veg (think of where corn oil comes from - veggies do have limited oils in them!!!) But such oils are in dilute amounts in a fresh fruit/veg diet. Cows can live on grass -- but don't parrots require more fat than that??? I also always have a dish with just pellets (mine enjoys them as a crunchy snack) and I figure they're loaded with the needed balance of nutrients/micro-nutrients (like vitamins and minerals -- almost like a vitamin supplement) but it's NOT my parrot's main diet -- more like a snack. Mine lives mostly on fresh fruit and veg -- with some rice (sometimes pasta -- not his fave) mixed in. What do you feed your parrot???

This isn't a meme, but I thought I'd post it here since this thread is active. I know someone has posted it here but I just saw it again on facebook and it still made me laugh. A lot of truth in it! 13 Ways to Really Prepare Yourself for Getting a Pet Bird Are you thinking about getting your first pet bird? This 13-step guide will emotionally and physically prepare you for what it’s like to live with one. If you follow this, you will have a fairly good idea what it’s like to have one of these lovely creatures in your house. 1. Take a big bite of carrot. Chew it up well, but don’t swallow it. Now go out to your dining room and spew it all over the wall. Leave it there until it dries. Get a sponge and a scraper and scrape it off the wall. Repeat daily! 2. Go to the bird supply store. Buy everything you need for the month. Then with the leftover money, go to the grocery store and pick up a five-pound box of macaroni, some parmesan cheese and some margarine. These provisions should last you about two weeks, and it’s about all you’ll be able to afford after all that money you spent at the bird supply store. 3. Take a newspaper to the bird supply store. Place it in the bottom of an empty birdcage. Read it while it’s laying on the bottom of the grate. This is how you will be reading the newspaper from now on. 4. Get some pelleted diet, some chopped up vegetables, borrow some bird poop from the bird supply store (they’ll look at you funny, but they probably won’t charge you for it), some parrot feathers, pieces of bird toy parts, some wood chips and some almond shells. Combine in a one-gallon container. Throw some of it on the floor. Now clean it up. Throw more of it on the floor. Now clean it up. Repeat at least twice a day. 5. Get a screwdriver from your toolkit. Make some gouges in the paint on the wall. And while you’re at it, use it to rip one of your lampshades and smack up a couple of picture frames. 6. Make sure you know the meaning of all of these terms: Cloaca, preen gland, PDD, PBFD, calcium to phosphorus ratio, polyomavirus, E.N.D., and boing. This task involves a lot of research. At least you'll be on your phone for a good reason. 7. Measure out a cup of flour and place in a sifter. Move about your house and lightly coat all surfaces with the flour. Now dust all the surfaces. Repeat at least three times a week. 8. Look up some wild parrots on YouTube. Turn the volume up on your phone to full blast and place it right next to your ear. Repeat at least three times a day for 45 minutes. 9. Take some of that bird poop you borrowed from the bird supply store and place it on a spatula. Now reach over your shoulder with the spatula and rub the bird poop on the back of your shirt. Let dry and then go grocery shopping. Count the number of people who either stare at you or tell you that you have bird poop on your back. 10. Do a little dumpster diving and collect odd items like water bottle caps, pieces of raffia, tree branches from bird-safe trees, pieces of cardboard and old plastic clothesline. With these items, attempt to make an interesting toy. You have 8 minutes. You may begin. 11. Save the wild parrot sounds onto your phone and set them as your 6 a.m. alarm. Make sure they are on the loudest setting possible. Repeat every morning for the rest of your life. 12. Get some bed sheets. Now take that screwdriver and make various beak-shaped holes in them. Take some of that bird poop and smear it on the sheets. Launder and repeat at least twice a month. 13. Find a reputable bird veterinarian and make his car payment for him. Repeat at least once a year for each bird you intend to get. Do these exercises for as long as you can. If you can keep this up for at least six months without losing your mind, you just might be ready for a parrot 😂😍😋

Timber is a cardboard fanatic too. I'll admit to not worrying much as long as I get the tape and gummy stuff off!

I put red palm oil on Timber's rice mix. Dave mentioned his support for red palm oil years ago and I added it to Timber's diet then.

I know, should have waited for December to post this one... I am impatient! lol

My heart skipped a beat when I saw Dave 007. I certainly miss his incredible posts. For those of you who are new here, he left this world a few years back, but his noteworthy teachings live on right here on Grey Forums.

We used to have lovebirds... Many years ago. I couldn't really remember much because I was really young back then but one of the pair died, and my brother just told me the other will die soon as well because the partner died. I was horrified, lol. It's nice looking at these photos (even if these are old), kind of makes me nostalgic.

Sorry about the language on this one but it's too good: And of course the videos people make are even better: TielForce.mp4

Definitely love Bird Memes. That's one facebook group I don't usually get into it with anyone. So many good memes come across that one... Who did it better? (in case it's unreadable, the pull tab reads 'now I have')

Here's another one that we can all relate to:

WHERE DID I LEAVE THAT DUST PAN ?

WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT ?? ?

Love parrot memes (well, I like all sorts of memes!)

I've said this elsewhere, but mine will hang upside down off my hand/fingers at bedtime -- pretty hard to put an upside bird on a perch. He's all limp and thinks this is hilarious. I often have to just lay him on bottom of his cage until he lets go of my hand and realizes it IS bedtime. lol

Hilarious! I've always wondered why they enjoy hanging upside down like that. Guess I'll never know...

A lot of practical and helpful responses. I realize no one has the power to force a forum to become busy and active -- it just has to happen on its own; and it has to feel effortless and be enjoyable for everyone. And yeah, life does get in the way sometimes of being active in a forum. A woman can dream though: maybe one day I will come online here and there will be too many active threads for me to even read them all!

Afterthought: I am very active on Arachnoboards -- a very busy forum! How is it possible more people want to chat about their tarantulas (which are pet rocks, not an interactive pet, and certainly feared by most people) and yet a wonderful grey forum like this one isn't that active? It just seems that for every tarantula owner there should be thousands of grey owners, yannoe? Greys are so loving, cuddly, interactive, intelligent, independent, creative, etc. -- tarantulas just sit in their enclosure waiting for food drops. If older members are willing to commit to more content here, then I can certainly try to post/respond more (and not just lurk and read). Lurkers don't really help a forum grow. I suppose I never posted much here because there aren't always a lot of threads I feel I have something valuable to contribute to; and the threads I start tend to not get past page 1. I do remember being so excited when I first discovered this forum --C'mon -- a GREY FORUM? What's not to love?

God bless you! May the Lord go with you. Jayd and Maggie

I would be sad to see the forums close down because there is a wealth of knowledge and years of experience in the archives. It would be a real shame to lose everything that people have put into this place over the years- especially as some of them are sadly no longer with us. However, I understand that it is a large undertaking to keep a website/forum running. I also understand that this can seem like a totally thankless task when hardly anyone shows up and posts any more. I enjoy keeping up to date with everyone's birds and I would be sad to lose that connection with the people here. Is there a way to archive the data on the forums and make it searchable? Is there some way that this can be moved to another communications platform where we can still add to it and communicate with each other (for those that are left?) I don't even know what platform would be the best to use. Yes there is facebook where you could make a page or a group. But is that the best format? Would everyone move across? Are there other platforms available which are less taxing in terms of management and maintenance?

Absolutely that must have been a frightening time. Sending love your way.

According to Rosemary Low, writer and conservationist, there are 28 species of amazon parrots: orange winged blue fronted yellow crowned yellow shouldered cuban hispaniolan yellow billed white fronted yellow lored red spectacled tucuman puerto rican vinaceous lilac crowned green cheeked red lored scaly naped white faced mealy blue cheeked red browed red tailed red necked St. Lucia Imperial St. Vincent Festive black billed yellow faced Under these there are several sub-species. The countries in which they occur are Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Caribbean Islands, Central America, Colombia, Ecuador, the Guianas, Mexico, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, and Venezuela including Trinidad and Tobago. There is no "standard" amazon. Each one evolved to fit a different set of circumstances. Some amazons that are well known in aviculture are less suitable as pets than, for example, the ochrocephala (yellow crowned) sub-species. They are superb, not just because they are good mimics but because they greatly enjoy interacting with people and are tremendous "show offs". No parrot is perfect in a captive situation because that is not where it evolved to be. Howver, compared with most parrots, the disadvantages of amazons are minimal. While they can be noisy, especially early in the morning, and more vocal during the breeding season, in a pet situation it is much easier to divert an amazon from screaming than, for example, a cockatoo. Many amazons love to sing-along and singing to them can change their screams into an out-of-tune attempt to join in. A disadvantage of certain amazons is that during the breeding season most males become difficult to live with as pets. The worst offenders are male blue-fronts, double yellow-heads, yellow-naped and salvins - all species that are otherwise wonderful companions. They are good pets precisely because they are extrovert and fearless. The more timid species, such as the Tucuman, are not sought as pets and they are not aggressive towards people. Some species are naturally more aloof and others are almost inherently friendly. So be warned! An amazon is not just a green parrot. Not all members have the same degree of adaptability, ability to mimic or take pleasure in human company. Don't think that the various species vary only in plumage color - observe and hear as many species as possible before making a choice as a prospective pet. Having said that, there is always an element of uncertainty when obtaining a parrot because the personalities of these birds are as varied as those of humans. In short, Amazons are treasures among parrots.