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I don't think the results were ever posted.

I no this post is years old but has op ever posted the results? Was it the teflon tape ?

All I have is my experience. No matter what I say or how I try to correct the behavior, Timber will still bite me occasionally. It's rare, but it happens and always takes me by surprise. You seem to know the problem (cause) of the bite, so avoiding a repeat of that will surely help. With Timber, I have yet to determine why he seems compelled to take a plug out of me once in awhile. I'm sure he has his reasons, but I can't discern them.

So today was another mistake, as my wife Brenda says, when she took Caesar to his play area ( garden size tub) which already held the remains of many brown paper bags. Instead of allowing Caesar to step down on the side of the tub or allowing him to directly step into the tub, Brenda was first going to move to the side some of the paper rubble so Caesar could have his new paper bag on the bottom of the tub. As Brenda says it was her mistake to touch his paper rubble (his nest). Caesar immediately bit Brenda on the base of the thumb bringing blood. She immediately shouted "NO, bite, NO, hurt Brenda" several times and took him to his sleeping cage in his private room and covered him up repeating again"NO, bite, NO, hurt Brenda"several times. Caesar is very social and wants to be with people. After about 10 minutes, Brenda went to Caesar, uncovered his cage and showed him her thumb saying Caesar hurt Brenda, NO, bite Brenda. Current plan is to clean up the garden tub playground and not return Caesar to it for a period of time. Your thoughts, experiences and suggestions are welcome.

Sorry to hear about the recall scare but hopefully all are safe and well.

Love this! LOL Well, I went thru all the 8 boxes I have in my freezer ( I buy them when they are on sale) Only 2 boxes have a matching lot code, the rest are not on the 18 page recall list, so I think I'm good. I did buy the Eggo's brand yesterday for today's breakfast. I'll see how well they went over when I go home from work today.. It's funny how well they have us trained!

Sorry to hear about the recall. Found it humorous that your birds have you feeding them frozen waffles and only a certain brand. Who's running that show anyway?!? My birds have me trained on Honey Grahams. And we call them 'cookies' around here. They go wild when I ask 'who wants a cookie?'. GreycieMae will hang from the cabinet door where the cookies are stored.

Hoping your parrots are just fine. An aside, I heard a new mother's tip years ago about giving a piece of frozen waffle to infants who are teething -- apparently it's coldness is soothing to chew/gnaw on. I mean, those are NOT cooked first. And wow, what a LONG list of recalls. Yeeesh. Hope all are safe.

Cooking does kill listeria, also they were not all listeria positive, it was just a chance..so I am feeling better today that they should be ok. It's listeria mono that is the problem, not listeria species as much

Prayers that your birds are unaffected. Keep you chin up and believe for the best! Scary stuff though.

Thanks for not scolding me as so many FB groups did about feeding them waffles. They DO get a veggie mix & healthy food every day. This is just a breakfast treat with the other foods I mentioned. Getting so beat up elsewhere I appreciate not getting beat up here.

Yes, I have already done that. Part of my job at work is being Certified Food Safety, so I get all the latest recalls from the FDA as soon as they come out. I did check the Lot codes & Many boxes I have in my freezer are on the recall list. My parrots were not happy to not have waffles today. I may have to try the Eggo's, they are made from a different company and not part of the recall. although they don't prefer those for some reason...

Found the FDA SKU list: https://www.fda.gov/media/182860/download?attachment

Are you able to research the SKUs being recalled and compare those to what you have? Hopefully all will be okay. Fingers crossed.

Feeling sad & concerned. I have 2 greys & an amazon; I give them toasted frozen waffles cut into bit size pieces for breakfast along with some toast every morning in their cages before I go to work. I just saw the waffle recall for frozen waffles including the brand I use. It can take up to 70 days before you see symptoms, I am worried... I hope they don't have any issues from this, but I won't know for over 3 months...this definitely worries me. I buy them when they go on sale & stock up, it is a daily staple for them...:/

Nice job! What a cool idea.

So here is a picture of the stroller with the perch attached to the seat base and a picture of the stroller/perch combination with a net basket around it. We purchased a light-weight laundry basket [for about $5.00] and cut out one side. Then we just put the stroller top down over it. We have to make sure to attached the basket firmly to the stroller if we ever get Corey outside in this because she might be able to knock it off if she ever hit it with her wings.

Take it slow with lots and lots of praise and her favourite treats. Hopefully she'll come round eventually!

Yes, they do see new things and change as evil, at least initially. That is the way Timber is anyway. Good luck!

Darn. But I'm not surprised, seeing that greys usually perceive new things as evil.

Quick update on the Corey stroller experience. Corey does NOT like the moving stroller. Apparently, moving the stroller makes the stroller evil. She even flies out of the stroller [and lands OK on the ground] in the house and she is very reluctant flyer. Hopefully, we can get her through the "the stroller is evil" phase. P.S. I will post a picture of the finished stroller when we get there.

Good luck with it, and please post photos when you complete it as I'd love to see what you end up with. I think it's good to have different options depending on where you're going/what you're doing. I really like the stroller idea, I'm just not handy enough to make something myself! Alfie enjoys getting out and about, as he's quite boisterous for a grey and seems to take it all in his stride. He loves going in his aviary in the garden and I have a similar problem in that I can never convince him to come back out of it in the evening! I have to remove all the toys and perches then put the travel cage over him to get him to go in it! Otherwise, he just climbs away!

Hi Katrina and Karen, Thanks for the replies. Like Alfie, Corey does not usually want anything to touch her wings or back. We have thought of a backpack carrier but thought we would try this first. We only have about $20 invested so far so if it doesn't work out, we are not out a lot of $. Unlike Timber, Corey likes to go outside. We take her to the backyard in her travel cage [as long as it's not too hot]. She really seems to like to look around and preen. It's hard to get her out of the travel cage when we bring her inside. Progress has been slow on the project to get Corey used to the stroller. Seems like there's always something else to get distracted with but if we make progress, I will post. Thanks again, Terry

After numerous attempts to convince Timber he would enjoy the great outdoors (I have the same backback neoow mentioned) I've given up. He does NOT want to go outside, is vocal in his objections, then just looks terrified until I bring him back in. Good luck! I think it probably varies from bird to bird.

I think this is a great idea and I have seen a few people do this. Some modify it and attach a dog crate onto the frame. Others do what you have suggested have have a mesh screen over the top. I have a couple of options for Alfie when I take him out. I have a small metal cage for him when I take him in the car- e.g to take him to the vets. I use that if we're going to be out for a long time, as it has food and water dishes he can't remove. I often take him with me when I visit my parents, as he absolutely adores my mum and it means he's not left alone. I also have a little camping trolly/cart that the cage fits in, so if I'm taking him somewhere where we'll be moving around (e.g a couple of parrots shows I've visited in the last couple of years) then I can pull the cage around in that. If I'm just taking him out for a walk then I have a backpack carrier for him which has a single perch in it. It did come with food/water bowls but they are just attached via velcro, so the first thing he does is rip them off and drop them... which means I end up with water running down my back! 🤣 Alfie has the same attitude about harnesses. I do have a harness for him and I did try and start harness training a few times... but he hates his back/wings being touched and the loop to go over his head is so small we never progressed that far with it. I never forced the issue because I'd quite like to retain all my fingers! 😁