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Love the pics! He's adorable!

Yes! Look at him standing proud on there. Timber won't step up on anything but my arm (and only in the hoodie). Good for you!

Hmm. I wonder if it's because I did it on my phone... can you see them now?

I can't see the pics, drat! Glad you found a solution though. Those picky, picky, picky birds. Timber has decided he only wants to step up if I'm wearing a certain navy hoodie, so it permanently resides on my snack bar stool.

Just a slight update on this one. I found and purchased a smaller handheld perch as I figured that would be much easier to carry around to different places with me. It came with a plastic 'guard' that I don't think I can detach (although haven't tried to yet in case I break it). I've had it for a good few weeks and have been slowly introducing it to Alfie. He wasn't keen at first because it was something different. So I took it slow and just got him used to touching it with his beak and rewarding him with treats when he did. He hasn't stepped up on it and usually runs away if I ask him to step up on it. I haven't forced the issue. But tonight, he decided now was the time that he would step up and let me walk him round the room. Lots of praise ensued so he knew it was a good thing. So here he is, on his new portable perch! (I just noticed I had it the wrong way round with the plastic guard pointing in the wrong direction haha)

From everything I've read, when I was researching safe cookware, I wouldn't think teflon would offgas at 300 degrees. The problem comes when the temps are high, like 400 to 500 if I recall. I'm not sure what happens if the tape becomes degraded though.

I do understand your concern. I wonder if there's any literature from the teflon tape manufacturer that mentions the maximum heat it can withstand before breaking down. It's unfortunate that we don't have a necropsy report follow-up on Monkey's bird. a

Right but every radiator in the world uses Teflon tape and many people with birds have steam/hot water heat and I can’t find anything about it you would think if it could happen we would know about it like we do the pans , I’m not an expert but I think they get up to about 300 degrees and it’s not direct heat like a flame , wish I could find more , I really need to install a new radiator,

Having lost 2 birds within 30 minutes of each other, I can attest that high heat exposure will release teflon vapors and kill birds. My husband had returned home after living in another state for work and brought back his kitchen pots, etc. Unbeknownst to me, one of the pans contained teflon. My son used that pan to cook bacon over very high heat, suddenly killing 2 of my babies. Luckily our other 11 birds survived the exposure. My thoughts are that if his radiator reached high temperatures, it could have activated the teflon tape. It's quite unusual for such a young bird to quickly die like that, unless he had an undiagnosed medical condition.

I don't think the results were ever posted.

I no this post is years old but has op ever posted the results? Was it the teflon tape ?

All I have is my experience. No matter what I say or how I try to correct the behavior, Timber will still bite me occasionally. It's rare, but it happens and always takes me by surprise. You seem to know the problem (cause) of the bite, so avoiding a repeat of that will surely help. With Timber, I have yet to determine why he seems compelled to take a plug out of me once in awhile. I'm sure he has his reasons, but I can't discern them.

So today was another mistake, as my wife Brenda says, when she took Caesar to his play area ( garden size tub) which already held the remains of many brown paper bags. Instead of allowing Caesar to step down on the side of the tub or allowing him to directly step into the tub, Brenda was first going to move to the side some of the paper rubble so Caesar could have his new paper bag on the bottom of the tub. As Brenda says it was her mistake to touch his paper rubble (his nest). Caesar immediately bit Brenda on the base of the thumb bringing blood. She immediately shouted "NO, bite, NO, hurt Brenda" several times and took him to his sleeping cage in his private room and covered him up repeating again"NO, bite, NO, hurt Brenda"several times. Caesar is very social and wants to be with people. After about 10 minutes, Brenda went to Caesar, uncovered his cage and showed him her thumb saying Caesar hurt Brenda, NO, bite Brenda. Current plan is to clean up the garden tub playground and not return Caesar to it for a period of time. Your thoughts, experiences and suggestions are welcome.

Sorry to hear about the recall scare but hopefully all are safe and well.

Love this! LOL Well, I went thru all the 8 boxes I have in my freezer ( I buy them when they are on sale) Only 2 boxes have a matching lot code, the rest are not on the 18 page recall list, so I think I'm good. I did buy the Eggo's brand yesterday for today's breakfast. I'll see how well they went over when I go home from work today.. It's funny how well they have us trained!

Sorry to hear about the recall. Found it humorous that your birds have you feeding them frozen waffles and only a certain brand. Who's running that show anyway?!? My birds have me trained on Honey Grahams. And we call them 'cookies' around here. They go wild when I ask 'who wants a cookie?'. GreycieMae will hang from the cabinet door where the cookies are stored.

Hoping your parrots are just fine. An aside, I heard a new mother's tip years ago about giving a piece of frozen waffle to infants who are teething -- apparently it's coldness is soothing to chew/gnaw on. I mean, those are NOT cooked first. And wow, what a LONG list of recalls. Yeeesh. Hope all are safe.

Cooking does kill listeria, also they were not all listeria positive, it was just a chance..so I am feeling better today that they should be ok. It's listeria mono that is the problem, not listeria species as much

Prayers that your birds are unaffected. Keep you chin up and believe for the best! Scary stuff though.

Thanks for not scolding me as so many FB groups did about feeding them waffles. They DO get a veggie mix & healthy food every day. This is just a breakfast treat with the other foods I mentioned. Getting so beat up elsewhere I appreciate not getting beat up here.

Yes, I have already done that. Part of my job at work is being Certified Food Safety, so I get all the latest recalls from the FDA as soon as they come out. I did check the Lot codes & Many boxes I have in my freezer are on the recall list. My parrots were not happy to not have waffles today. I may have to try the Eggo's, they are made from a different company and not part of the recall. although they don't prefer those for some reason...

Found the FDA SKU list: https://www.fda.gov/media/182860/download?attachment

Are you able to research the SKUs being recalled and compare those to what you have? Hopefully all will be okay. Fingers crossed.

Feeling sad & concerned. I have 2 greys & an amazon; I give them toasted frozen waffles cut into bit size pieces for breakfast along with some toast every morning in their cages before I go to work. I just saw the waffle recall for frozen waffles including the brand I use. It can take up to 70 days before you see symptoms, I am worried... I hope they don't have any issues from this, but I won't know for over 3 months...this definitely worries me. I buy them when they go on sale & stock up, it is a daily staple for them...:/

Nice job! What a cool idea.